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Tired one", "Simple," but dangerously so. I genuinely appreciate you sentiment and it is a rather popular one in our age, and perhaps you are being entirely ironic as you lead readers to the last of your declarations: "I forgive myself for not asking God's forgiveness." But even here, the language belies a very modern problem, namely that the "Self" is someone the final arbiter of all our actions and relations in the world.

I think the fatal flaw, intimidated but not fully acknowledged in your final declaration, is the assumption that we can "forgive ourselves" anything. Let me hasten to add, lest all the feel-good, new agers jump all over me, that I am NOT suggesting that we ought not or cannot "give ourselves a break"---as the expression goes. My point is that only in a thoroughgoing narcissistic, self-referential society would the notion of "forgiving oneself" not be regarded as 'prima facie' absurd. The notion of forgiveness implies an 'other'. It implies an offense was committed outside oneself and therefore the forgiveness can only originate outside oneself. Even the claim, "Well, I only hurt myself," is not only demonstrably false, it is further evidence of the solipsistic and spiritually bankruptcy of our age.

I agree that one should give oneself a break, but in so doing we must realize that the origin of that “break” comes not from within, but from the love and kindness and willingness to forgive from those around us (and, some would argue, ultimately from God). It is not the ‘sui generis’ creation of the false Idol of the Modern Age: the Self.

Sorry, First para.: your, not you. Second para.: Intimated, not intimidated.

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O_O_, Why is forgiveness needed in the matter of what you are calling your "disadvantages?" As I said above in my reply to "tired one," I understand the sentiment, but I'm not sure---if I understand your remark---that "forgiveness" is the proper word to describe what I think you are trying to say. If, by "disadvantages," you mean your own personal shortcomings, and that you accept these shortcomings, good. But understanding our shortcomings and accepting them is not something requiring "forgiveness." Forgiveness implies the commission of some offense or wrongdoing. A human limitation does not constitute a wrong.

My point in my reply to "tired one" is that forgiveness must come from outside us. We can give ourselves a break, or not beat ourselves up over something we've done wrong. We can even---and must if we want to be free of the burden of guilt that weighs on our conscience---squarely acknowledge and accept responsibility for our wrongdoing, but we cannot "forgive" ourselves. That must come from an "other," human and/or divine.

Tired one, i really like ur post and I pray that I will be able to forgive myself.
Melomane, I agree with most of ur sociological remarks about our age. But i dont agree with ur central point: I am a psychotherapist and I work with victims of sexual abuse. For my clients (and of cousre for myself in the areas where i have been a victim of abuse) it is helpfull to find a way to forgive their wrongdoers (I hope this is the correct english term). But even more it is helpfull - if not say necesarry for them to forgive themselves the fact that they became victims. It might be difficult to understand this concept, but i think it is vital! Becoming a victim is not an action, and it is nor ur "fault". But if u do become a victim there will allways be a part in u that blames urself! U blame urself for being so weak, so vulnerable, so fragile. U can even hate urself for being vulnerable and fragile. And so i think the only solution is to forgive urself! (So in this way i agree very much with olgaolgas message!)
I agree with u, melomane, that forgiveness is something between one and another. - But i think just as we can have a dialogue with ourselves, or between different parts of ourselves, we can also be referential with ourselves and forgive ourselves. I have experienced this in therapeutic processes and in meditation. It is a process inside our hearts.
This doesnt not imply that there is a higher being that can give us forgiveness like in the christian (and maybe also other religion's) sense. But God would forgive us our actions, or maybe even our thoughts. But i dont see a need for God to forgive me my having become a victim. I think this i can and must only forgive myself.
Thx reading!
Pls give ur opinion.

we can also make peace with ourself, i think is what the tired one wanted to say

Long John,

You raise an interesting question concerning the phenomenon of someone feeling guilt for an action that he or she did not commit and for which the person is not responsible. I must confess I had not thought of this special case, and I thank you for writing, as it is clearly an important aspect of human psychology. It is a curious phenomenon that one should feel guilty or responsible for a malevolent action of which one was not the author, but rather a victim. I am not unfamiliar with the problem and it does not appear to be confined to victims of sexual abuse. As such, it may be more useful to examine this more broadly as it pertains to victimhood in general. A couple examples will suffice to make my point: I have heard reports of Holocaust survivors feeling guilty that they had survived while others did not. Then there is the much less serious, but common phenomenon of a victim of a common assault either physical or verbal in which the victim suffers, not just the expected righteous anger, but an accompanying feeling of guilt for somehow "allowing" himself (or herself) to be humiliated. It’s also interesting that no matter the precise nature of the offense, when people describe victimhood in vernacular and vulgar speech, they borrow the language of sexual abuse. They speak of “getting fucked” or in prison/street vernacular getting “punked” (i.e.sodomized). For men this means emasculation; for women a loss of chastity associated with their femininity. More succinctly, a loss of manhood and womanhood respectively. As you know, a victim’s suffering often takes on the form of an obsessive replaying of the trauma in which the victim fantasizes a different response to the assault, as if a compensatory David & Goliath-like dream.

Long John, the idea of the victim supplying, in effect, his own ‘other’ in the act of having a dialogue with himself is useful, but raises as many questions as it answers. I don’t disagree with the truth of your observation, but it causes me to ask from where this new voice arises, a voice that in the course of dialogue with oneself succeeds in moving the victim to an act of self-forgiveness, which helps to heal wounds and relieve his soul of the ceaseless torment resulting not merely from the trauma of the event, but also from the infernal dialogue of obsession alluded to above.

As self-conscious creatures capable of reflection, we carry on a dialogue with ourselves from our very early childhood until we die. As such, the act of self-dialogue comes as no surprise to me. What interests me more is the genesis of this new voice, this benevolent interloper who appears to overthrow the malevolent interlocutor that has imprisoned the Self in an obsessive, spirit-draining dialogue that bears no fruit.

Again, just where does this liberating voice come from? The answer is by no means self-evident or empirically observable, though the salutary effects of its arrival are. My sense is that it does not spring sui generis from the Self. (In fact, I reject the notion of an “essential Self”, but that is whole other discussion). Rather it is an effect of the individual having been touched in some way---directly or indirectly, consciously or unconsciously---by something outside himself. Thus, the ‘other’ in this so-called dialogue with oneself does not have its origins in the individual soul who suffers, but is by some spiritual process a result of one soul communing with another. In this way the external ‘other’ that is internalized becomes the agent of forgiveness, even though it may appear as if it sprang miraculously from within the soul of one who, by all evidence, lacks the capacity to bring it about. Lower the bucket as many times as you like, a dry well will never fill it. The healing must ultimately come from the spiritual succor of a source outside oneself. That moment arrives when the soul of the victim, so closed by trauma, finally opens to being refreshed by the healing waters outside itself. Thus equipped, the battered soul may then find he or she can engage in what I believe is mislabeled as an act of “self-forgiveness.”

P.S. I agree with you that a belief in God is not necessary for a solution to this problem.

letherskirt and tight top..

A wett t-short and hight heels:D

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if she has a great body,clothes 2 sizes to small :--))

sexy top, skirt, thigh highs or pantyhose

i would rather see clothes put on the floor!!! lol

personally I like normal everyday clothes

em... birthday suit :D

Skirts are great. Forget panty hose. I can't believe some of you wear them. Thong panties are the best. I personally like a top with buttons. Leave a few buttons undone. Try and match your bra and panties in color. Something cute. Lacy. Take your time getting out of the clothes but not to the point of stalling or appearing scammy. Shirt first, skirt, bra, panties. Look at the camera.

has a different style... best to fit what you look good in :)
i do agree street clothes can be very nice.... lovely top and skirt... or a nice tight pair of jeans :))

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Maybe she was really hot in 2005, now after 2 years of sitting in front of a computer all day she fatter and pale looking.

Maybe she get so many viewers and have no time to take a picture!:P

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nice to see something new and fresh :))

thoughts freeda. thanks a lot for sharing. What plans you have for the holiday?? Hope you will have a wonderful love filled day!

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you about her plans... what you two up to? whats going on? come on man spill the beans :))

Well, it was a secret and a surprise, but she's blown it now. But i'm still not telling. :-) Moya Varen'ka will have to tell you after the event.

im watching!

voyeur!!!

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How about
1. Rent the DVD "Nasty Anal Lesibans" and watch it together
2. She who can drink the most beer in an hour
3. Take a tour of the local slaughtering house
4. Try slam dancing
5. Two words; Cock Fight
6. Pay two bums to fight, winner get 40 of the cheapest beer you can find
7. Do a 3 way with your best friend
8. Go to the church and heckle from the back row
9. Re-consider feltching
10. Go to a Seafood buffet and eat till you puke.

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you are interesting freeda,you're just not interested(thought i would try to get in before a wiseacre takes a shot).p. get mondo to show you his dirty dancing on St V's day :--))

Hey, tisyou, the love freeda and I share transcends "dirty dancing". Nice idea, though ;-)

we don't celebrate Valentines Day in our house. It's just another way of getting you to spend money.

too bad my blow-up doll wont appreciate any of this :(

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of some of this awhile ago for sure
you? :)

Doesn't the answer depend upon the thing to which you are referring?

that i don't know but i do know enough is enough!!! :--))

I can't argue with your logic, tisme. Enough is enough, just as X = X. Just wondering what limit "Gluttony" had in mind.

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...or if you notice that you are starting to blister. that's always a good sign that you need to take a break.

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i thought better of you Sexy, guess I was wrong :(

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Happy Birthday Pats!!! May all ur wishes come true!!!

..they did ...he got more happy birthday's wishes than the president of US lol

yep and cost him more then the election from what i heard :P

Keep up the goood work Pats !!! ;)

happy birthday

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with you :) really pathetic!

not you too freeda :((((

that looks cool freeda :--))

My beloved can always be relied on to give the right answer.

If you asked these girls to post about you, you need a doc!!!!!

Lol! You can't say you didn't ask for it. However, if it's not what you had in mind, console yourself with a line from the Irish writer Brendan Behan who said, "There's no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary."

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that he is doing that... makes you wonder what kind of guy would do such a thing

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to hear it was not just me he asked. so take back my wishe :P

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here also

Yuck!!!!!!!!Poor pussy boy!!!!!!!

Friends don't let you fuck fat chicks you just met at the bar.

why? he is not nice

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damm, this guy must spend a small fortune on the girls

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Kate you ask too many questions

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Who dares to check my freeda's Dirty IQ! at her vid???

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It is a good think I am not the jealous kind of guy. ;-)

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if mondo is Ray does that mean he is Raymondo666? :--))

You such observant ,tisme.....lol ,kisses

can i observe you fluffy? :--))

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we can observe her together buddy ;))

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i need supervision or at least x-ray eyes :--))

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to find my way out of this black hole,of course!!! :--))

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he meant out of this never ending thread :P

cool post :--))

no fluffy cc is the rainbow at the end of the tunnel :--))

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1. When I go in I might cause pain. I cause you to spit and ask you not to swallow. I can fill your hole. What am I? The dentist

2. A finger goes in me. You fiddle with me when you're bored. The best man always has me first. What am I? A wedding ring

3. I'm spread before I'm eaten. Your tongue gets me off. People sometimes like to lick my nuts. What am I? Peanut butter

4. I go in hard. I come out soft. You blow me hard . What am I? No clue

5. All day long it's in and out. I discharge loads from my shaft. Both men and women go down on me. What am I? An elevator

6. I come in many sizes. When I'm not well, I drip. When You blow me you feel good. What am I? Birthday candles?

7. If I miss, I hit your bush. It's my job to stuff your box. When I come, it's news. What am I? The paper boy?

8. I offer protection. I get the finger ten times. You use your fingers to get me off. What am I? Gloves?

9. I assist an erection. Sometimes big balls hang from me. I'm called a big swinger. What am I? No clue

10. I'm at least 6 inches long. I leave foamy lubrication when engaged in my job. What am I? No clue

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is number 4 chewing gum??

Questions:

1. When I go in I might cause pain. I cause you to spit and ask you not to swallow. I can fill your hole. What am I? dentist

2. A finger goes in me. You fiddle with me when you're bored. The best man always has me first. What am I? wedding ring

3. I'm spread before I'm eaten. Your tongue gets me off. People sometimes like to lick my nuts. What am I? peanut butter

4. I go in hard. I come out soft. You blow me hard . What am I? bubble gum

5. All day long it's in and out. I discharge loads from my shaft. Both men and women go down on me. What am I? elevator

6. I come in many sizes. When I'm not well, I drip. When You blow me you feel good. What am I? nose

7. If I miss, I hit your bush. It's my job to stuff your box. When I come, it's news. What am I? mail man

8. I offer protection. I get the finger ten times. You use your fingers to get me off. What am I? gloves

9. I assist an erection. Sometimes big balls hang from me. I'm called a big swinger. What am I? wrecking ball

10. I'm at least 6 inches long. I leave foamy lubrication when engaged in my job. What am I? can of shaving cream

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you mean the one that was here a while a go?

girl at pictures

was here a few days ago.... maybe she is just on a short holiday... time off for studies, exams... that kind of thing :)

unaceptable! These woman need to be here 24 hours a day. Any hint of a social life and I fly off into a jelous rage.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry

LMAO

Yes it has disappeared. Strange Strange Strange.

someone was jealous of her already and had it deleted :P

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Hello and welcome to cc.

Welcome to the interesting world of cc :) Hope that you will have a lot of fun... and make a lot of money :))

Best of luck and enjoy it on the cc merry-go-round

welcome to cc and I hope you have lot's of fun

Beautiful smile, great body. (Heavy Breathing)

i have a martisor for you

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a bubble bath for two? :) could be like a valentine present for you too :P

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guess it really depends on your bf
picnic is always nice... even if it is an indoor one :) soft music, candles... blah blah blah :))
massage??
or a simple dinner for two?

The suggestion of a simple romantic dinner reminds me of a joke:

A chinese couple own a restaurant. They are open 7 days a week and rarely take a day off. So, they decide to take a day off , enjoy dinner out and an evening relaxing and love making. They have a wonderful dinner and return home. They go to the bedroom, light some candles and turn on some soft music. As they enjoy their mutual embrace, the wife whispers in her husband's ear, "Honey, what would you like?" He replies, "I would like a 69." Alarmed, she pulls away from him and exclaims, "Why do you want beef & brocolli now?!!"

How about a romantic dinner followed with a nice walk and some colonge?

i am sorry to hear you dont have a love :(( i will give you friendly hugs and kisses for your valentines

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A good one Gregore!

its all cool with me.i think it's just a minority of members who are not happy unless they are complaining about something or someone.

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Its fine for me. Just know when I see a host with that message I move on. As justified as it is it sends a signal to me that the host is interested in one thing. Money.

or study,or sleep,or not you! LMAO

I think this is ok..

But textchat fist so we know you are intressting are sometimes a good start, and then video-chat for a houer of so.

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Of course it would be nice if all chathosts would chat a bit for free and not use the message at all; I don't disagree with that. What I find ridiculous is the indignation of members who don't like it. If a chathost chooses to use it, IMO it's silly to get upset about it. Only a small percentage of hosts are using it at any one time, so there is no need for the stamping of feet like a child. All a member has to do is leave that chathost and go to another.

Tech... they act like children. There are SO many hosts here... if it is a problem for them... then they need to just head off to someone else. Why have a tantrum about it.... thought you had to be of age to get in here

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PLEASE MAKE THIS SUBJECT STOP!!!
IT IS SOOOOO STUPID!!! YES SOME HOST DO IT, SOME MEMBERS HATE IT.... BIG DEAL!!!! THERE ARE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL GIRLS HERE... YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE, OR WITH THIS MESSAGE.... JUST MOVE ON!!!!

Beat me some more!!

get my whip... brb :P

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Happyyyy Birthday Pats!!!! Smileeee!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep up the gooood work Pats !!! ;)

don't listen to them pats,they r just some jealous guys! nice girls of cc send you their thoughts!

the ones who really know him dont :P

It seems even more replies have disappeared.

just keep sending them money

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pee standing up?

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hmmm i may have misunderstood it but if they were dancing together,lead.

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men can answer questions,, women it seems takes several days

you daisy... you are a real hottie :)

YAWN

Is that the answer to the question,
"What is the number of people wanting to live in Mexico?"

Bobbyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Bobbyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Bobbyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Conveyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...

US&A .........US&A.............US&A

uRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!

soccer is cool--i got to watch some kids playing that game once-

Its called FOOTBALL ! But the way you play it, we can call that soccer

But when Brazil, Argentina, Sweden, England, Italy and Spain plays its realy intressting..

But what have this with cam-contacts to do?

cant we call this FOOTBALL - .... thats what it is .!!!

Thats correct..
But the yenkees call it soccer.

because they call the game they play 99% of the time with their hands football silly :P

Yeah, watching Brazil play is awesome. Watching anyone else though is just kinda boring.
They should add shift changes like in hockey to keep the play fresh and fast. And add enforcers like in hockey too so that when some player gives another a cheap shot he'll know that he's likely to get pummeled for it. Wouldda been cool to see that Mexican goalie get his face punched - the prick.

See Brazil - Italy in footboll / soccer or Russia - Canada in hockey?

I saw its a drem (bouth of them)..

any time US tries to play soccer it is boring :P Go Romania :))

Remeber when Sweden beat them in the Quarter-final in world championship 94 (what a great game)..

Just wait, I'm gonna do to USA scoccer what the USFL is to the NFL.
BTW, There are more mexicians in LA than natives.

us soccer is boring coz in US the best athletes play football or basketball coz there is more money in it.

Guess how much I'm getting paid to play in the US?

not as much the stars as the basketball,NFL or major league baseballers.