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Dying young
Why do so many people in Russia die so young? I know of so many. It's pretty sad and much more than you would expect in the West. Is life just more dangerous?
RE: Dying young
God takes the innocent young!
The rolling in money
the Terrbily funny
and those that are very well hung!
The rolling in money
the Terrbily funny
and those that are very well hung!
RE: Dying young
Russian men die younger than most european men because russian men almost all smoking, drinking strong alcohol, don't do sport and like eat fat food.
RE: Dying young
You obviously do not understand statistics, that is why you don't believe them.
RE: Dying young
Of course you are in statistics. Just not the ones relating to people who are already dead.
RE: Dying young
Russian men are real men. Real men live harder, shorter lives.
Fruits and vegetables? For anyone other than a little girl, seriously?
Fruits and vegetables? For anyone other than a little girl, seriously?
RE: Dying young
I hate salads, fruits and vegetables... Yuck! Thats for the horses and rabbits. I eat what I like, smoke and drink when I wish. What good is life if you will never do what you want? I can die at 50 and I am happy of all I had lived until now ;-)
RE: Dying young
Disagree. Strength of man in not what they eat or drink, no. It should be something inside your soul to make strong to fight with real troubles in life. Smoking a lot and drinking vodka never make anyone really strong, opposite it show the weakness of a person. That is mean the person weak and have lack of self discipline.
RE: Dying young
Not so! I disagree. I smoke, drink Vodka, Whisky, Rum, eat only red meat and sometimes I dont even sleep and many people have a job because of me. People that dont smoke, dont party, no drink, and eat healthy are people that are afraid of dying and many other little things. If you are afraid just one bit you can't win in life ;-)
RE: Dying young
Everyone gets sick when old. I know many people that died of lung cancer and they never smoke. I have also seen people die of liver malfunction and they never drank alcohol ;-)
RE: Dying young
Some get very sick, some are ok. My grandmother is 86, she has some problems with her eyes but she is quite good, listens radio, music all day long. lol She never smokes and drinks vodka.
RE: Dying young
Good for Grandma! To smoke and drink Vodka kills. Hope you dont do any of it. :-)
RE: Dying young
I think you are confusing fear with self-preservation. I'm sure you do fear things, but you use this "fear of fear" to justify the actions you enjoy, despite what the outcome may be.
RE: Dying young
I also do that, but I am not dead yet and I am not "so Young" anymore. I must be doing something wrong. IMHO, to die young is better than die old, ugly, and useless
RE: Dying young
You might not feel that way if all your life you had been young, ugly and useless :P
RE: Dying young
if the only pleasures in life you could think of are to drink, smoke and drink some more, then definetly go for it;)
RE: Another Missing in Action
Too bad you didn't post your screen name. I could have told you what happened to her. If you leave your screen name, I will ccmail you.
keep it simple. It is fun.
say all or nothing in profile. Your choice Ms Host. Just do not lie. I go in yr private, if I keep having fun I stay. If I do not have fun, I leave. Simple. 9 of 10 times I have fun. If lots of fun, I come back again and again. Lets not over think this.
I keep a fav list, and a never again list. I'm sure many girls on my never again list are on some other members fav list. And I keep looking for new girls. It is fun.
I keep a fav list, and a never again list. I'm sure many girls on my never again list are on some other members fav list. And I keep looking for new girls. It is fun.
RE: keep it simple. It is fun.
that is what i am going to do today. i am going to tell my boss i will only do my work if he is nice to me. and i will only do a really good job if he is really nice to me. let's see how it works out.
RE: keep it simple. It is fun.
"I keep a "nice guy" list and a ban list. I am sure many members on my ban list are someone's regulars. And I keep waiting for new regulars. It's fun."
Very interesting. I bet you are a softcore host. I also bet your nice guy list is very small and your ban list is quite large.
Very interesting. I bet you are a softcore host. I also bet your nice guy list is very small and your ban list is quite large.
RE: keep it simple. It is fun.
Host Girl Have courage! - Write your Host Profile Name here!
If we like what you wrote above - we will come to meet you.
If we do not like what you wrote above - you go on Never Again list!
;-)
If we like what you wrote above - we will come to meet you.
If we do not like what you wrote above - you go on Never Again list!
;-)
RE: keep it simple. It is fun.
When we do put our host names, we get accused of trying to create business. This way we can post without being accused of doing that.
Why don't members post when complaining about a host post using their member names?
Why don't members post when complaining about a host post using their member names?
RE: keep it simple. It is fun.
Didn't know you could 'think' since you just copy regular members' words and replace with your side.
So show some courage - write your host name and we will see if you wrote some like/dislikes! ;-)
So show some courage - write your host name and we will see if you wrote some like/dislikes! ;-)
RE: keep it simple. It is fun.
Oh baby! Great reply! I'm sure you would be on my fav list. Maybe you already are. Life is fun!
To Young Mothers :)))
There was a young girl from Rabat,
who had triplets, Nat, Pat and Tat;
It was fun in the breeding,
But hell in the feeding,
When she found she had no tit for Tat.
who had triplets, Nat, Pat and Tat;
It was fun in the breeding,
But hell in the feeding,
When she found she had no tit for Tat.
Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
I have been a member here for a while and what I have noticed is that a lot of the misunderstandings could be avoided if the host would actually take the time to fill in their profile. And most specifically the "what you can expect from my show" part. If you just put smiley faces or say something like "the best host ever" or "to have a great time", there is bound to be misunderstandings.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
I think part of the problems is a host can vary what she does in video from day to day and especially from member to member. For members it seems like a simple choice...you strip or your don't. To hosts it is often more complex and involves how they feel that day, what their financial situation is, how they feel about the member, who is in the studio at that time, did they have a couple of beers with dinner, do they feel sexy or pretty that day, what they are wearing, how they feel their hair looks, etc.etc.etc. We are dealing with young pretty girls essentially and to expect them to act the same way in every video goes a long way to answer why we are on CC. But I still agree with your post. For hosts who do not strip under any circumstances...they should state that clearly.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
"To hosts it is often more complex and involves how they feel that day, what their financial situation is, how they feel about the member, who is in the studio at that time, did they have a couple of beers with dinner, do they feel sexy or pretty that day, what they are wearing, how they feel their hair looks, etc.etc.etc."
Many people have said this is not a dating site, but with a response like that, its like we all have to be dating the host. We have to worry about that crap in real life, we shouldnt have to when we are paying by the minute. I understand a host can have a bad day, but I dont agree with the premise that we have to entertain, turn on, or get the host in the mood.....I can go through all that in real life and not pay by the minute.....
Many people have said this is not a dating site, but with a response like that, its like we all have to be dating the host. We have to worry about that crap in real life, we shouldnt have to when we are paying by the minute. I understand a host can have a bad day, but I dont agree with the premise that we have to entertain, turn on, or get the host in the mood.....I can go through all that in real life and not pay by the minute.....
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
I was going to say the exact same thing but couldn't word it right. It comes off very hypocritical when hosts complain about members developing feelings when it's just a job for the host, and then to come say something like she says.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
You got that right. I'm tired of hosts' apologists that blame everything on the viewer. Hey we are paying for a service.
really?
can you imagine a stripper walking into the club to work. she tells her boss that she does not feel sexy, or maybe did not have a few beers with dinner etc. and she does not want to strip she just wants to sit and talk to customers for the night. for that matter, can you imagine anybody at any job telling their boss they dont feel like working and would just like to chat on yahoo all day but would like to get paid.
yes, i understand that they may not like the job here. but many people do not like their jobs. they still have to show up, put on a good face, and do their work. strippers or not. so why are guys on here so quick to defend hosts who do not want to work and feel they are entitled to an income for sitting and talking?
yes, i understand that they may not like the job here. but many people do not like their jobs. they still have to show up, put on a good face, and do their work. strippers or not. so why are guys on here so quick to defend hosts who do not want to work and feel they are entitled to an income for sitting and talking?
RE: really?
I was a stripper, and yes there was a time or two that I could not go on and do my show,
one time was because I did drink too much. and I told the boss I had and that I did not expect to get paid for the show I missed. however, the boss said that because I kept those people in the bar for 4 hours drinking when normally no one would have been in there, that he made more than enough to cover my one show that I missed.
the other time was because I got sick, and I got sick because I ate the food that was in that bar, so I could not do my show and again I got paid for it...
but on here if we do not do shows then we do not get paid anything. so if you are with a host who does not do what you want, they you have every right to leave and find a host that will do what you want when you want.
one time was because I did drink too much. and I told the boss I had and that I did not expect to get paid for the show I missed. however, the boss said that because I kept those people in the bar for 4 hours drinking when normally no one would have been in there, that he made more than enough to cover my one show that I missed.
the other time was because I got sick, and I got sick because I ate the food that was in that bar, so I could not do my show and again I got paid for it...
but on here if we do not do shows then we do not get paid anything. so if you are with a host who does not do what you want, they you have every right to leave and find a host that will do what you want when you want.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
It is all fine and dandy to spend the time doing a profile but then like as been said, many members don't or won't even read the profiles, let alone the category they are in.
or
Even when your profile says what you do not do and you tell them before video that you do not do it and the member say ok np, then once in video will turn around and pressure you to do the very thing you said no to before hand and they said ok np to. and if u dont do it then he writes a bad review and says u lied...
or
members that come to text and if you ask them did they read the profile, they either say "well glanced over it", or "no, i only looked at the pictures"... and
or
members that just jump into video without even talking in text nor reading the profile first, some start with hi i horny strip where is your toy get playing with yourself, and that is in glamour and little shy and yet if they read the profile it clearly says they dont do those things.
so yes it is fine to do a profile but it does not mean the majority of members that hit your room will read it, or if they do accept whats in it .....
or
Even when your profile says what you do not do and you tell them before video that you do not do it and the member say ok np, then once in video will turn around and pressure you to do the very thing you said no to before hand and they said ok np to. and if u dont do it then he writes a bad review and says u lied...
or
members that come to text and if you ask them did they read the profile, they either say "well glanced over it", or "no, i only looked at the pictures"... and
or
members that just jump into video without even talking in text nor reading the profile first, some start with hi i horny strip where is your toy get playing with yourself, and that is in glamour and little shy and yet if they read the profile it clearly says they dont do those things.
so yes it is fine to do a profile but it does not mean the majority of members that hit your room will read it, or if they do accept whats in it .....
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
What you say is true, but as long as you do fill out your profile you are covered. You have done everything required of you. If the member does not read your profile and or ask questions he has no basis for a complaint in my opinion.
So even if may be many members never read a profile, fill one out anyway. I and many other viewers do read profiles. And ask questions.
So even if may be many members never read a profile, fill one out anyway. I and many other viewers do read profiles. And ask questions.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
Good idea in theory, but the real problem is that many hosts try to get you into video and delay the "what you can expect from my show part". In other words, since they make more money the longer you stay in video, they want to delay giving the show. And many hosts, even if they are willing to strip, prefer just to chat. This is why there are "misunderstandings". It is because members want one thing and hosts want another. There is not a lack of communication. It is a lack of common desires.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
Your name still makes me smile. My dad used to play that album when I was young.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
Well I think members are able to decide and say no and move on when a host tries to push them into video.
I also think that if a member does enter a video and she does stall then the members are able to say no and leave and then complain that she stalled and did not do as agreed upon...
but make sure you have her she fully agrees before video then you have it in writing what was agreed to...so that you can show it to cc when you complain....
Some members will ask a question and not let you answer before entering video...
It irritates me that the hosts do stall because there are those of us that do not stall and that do what we agree to, but because of those hosts that do stall and force members into video makes it hard for those of us that do not stall nor force members into video,
not only do those same hosts cause members to think that all hosts are that way, but then we get posts saying that all hosts do it...And yes I know this post said many, but many posts often will say "all hosts..."
I just wish that hosts would be in the category they belong in and do what they agree to do. ....maybe then members would also be less annoyed and less likely to be bouncing around categories thinking that all hosts do everything in every category....
I also think that if a member does enter a video and she does stall then the members are able to say no and leave and then complain that she stalled and did not do as agreed upon...
but make sure you have her she fully agrees before video then you have it in writing what was agreed to...so that you can show it to cc when you complain....
Some members will ask a question and not let you answer before entering video...
It irritates me that the hosts do stall because there are those of us that do not stall and that do what we agree to, but because of those hosts that do stall and force members into video makes it hard for those of us that do not stall nor force members into video,
not only do those same hosts cause members to think that all hosts are that way, but then we get posts saying that all hosts do it...And yes I know this post said many, but many posts often will say "all hosts..."
I just wish that hosts would be in the category they belong in and do what they agree to do. ....maybe then members would also be less annoyed and less likely to be bouncing around categories thinking that all hosts do everything in every category....
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
I totally agree, that is one of the biggest reasons i left hard core and stopped using toys...
They have no idea how doing that changes being turned on to being turned off...I am sure that members have had times where they have been turned on and a host will say or do something that will make that hardon go soft in an instant.....
They have no idea how doing that changes being turned on to being turned off...I am sure that members have had times where they have been turned on and a host will say or do something that will make that hardon go soft in an instant.....
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
mmmmmmmmm slutty side..... I feel like Homer Simpson does when he thinks of donuts. I wanted to just stop reading and ask you your screen name, lol.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
You go to the store for 2% milk, the store is out of 2% milk and hands u soy milk saying pretend it is 2% milk, are you going to take the soy milk and pretend it 2% milk while you drink it? No you go to the store down the street for the 2% milk.....lol
or
You want an apple there are none but someone hands you a plastic or a wax apple and says pretend it is a real apple while you eat it. are you really going to try to pretend your eating a real apple? No you will go to the store that has nice fresh real apples....
or
You want an apple there are none but someone hands you a plastic or a wax apple and says pretend it is a real apple while you eat it. are you really going to try to pretend your eating a real apple? No you will go to the store that has nice fresh real apples....
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
"i do strip. i do toy shows. i can have a conversation IF member wants that, cause some do, even if i'm in hardcore."
OK you sound very reasonable. But why is it that softcore hosts have no trouble telling a member wanting a hardcore show to go to IA, and yet when a hardcore host gets a member that wants to talk, they chat rather than telling him he should go to softcore to chat. That is no different than the softcore host telling him to go to IA for what he wants in pvt. Why the double standard?
OK you sound very reasonable. But why is it that softcore hosts have no trouble telling a member wanting a hardcore show to go to IA, and yet when a hardcore host gets a member that wants to talk, they chat rather than telling him he should go to softcore to chat. That is no different than the softcore host telling him to go to IA for what he wants in pvt. Why the double standard?
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
I send member to IA because I know I am not going to instantly use a toy so why waste a member's time and money leading him to think I will. That is not right to the member.
Most of the members that see me have left hosts that fake because they would rather a host that is not scared to say they not able to. So I would rather have a some viewers that I can be myself and really enjoy to make the session even more enjoyable for the member,
faking can be seen by many, when you read how a host fakes does it not make you feel ripped off?
Most of the members that see me have left hosts that fake because they would rather a host that is not scared to say they not able to. So I would rather have a some viewers that I can be myself and really enjoy to make the session even more enjoyable for the member,
faking can be seen by many, when you read how a host fakes does it not make you feel ripped off?
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
"so why waste a member's time and money leading him to think I will. That is not right to the member."
I agree completely. But you are in a small minority of hosts as wasting members' money is what most hosts do best.
I agree completely. But you are in a small minority of hosts as wasting members' money is what most hosts do best.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
Maybe there should be a quick check list for each host. Even icons. No Strip would be good for hosts who never strip. If you have the no strip icon leave the girl alone. Stop harassing her. All other hosts without that icon are assumed to do some degree of nudity...up to the host and member to negotiate.
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
that would be great, unfortunately you will still have hosts who do not strip that will intentionally not use that icon. so you are still stuck with the same problem that you have now...
RE: Misunderstandings Between Members and Hosts
For those that deluded, would it really matter?
Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
I am open to replies from all , but would really like to hear from the hosts in those particular categories.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
In the way the game is played there is no difference but you have a guarantee of what you will see once the girl is naked in hardcore.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
And what guarantee is that?
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
There is no difference under the rules that I know of. Both the hard core and soft core host must strip if they lose. But many hosts stall during hi lo, and you will probably have a bigger problem with that issue with soft core hosts. Personally, I would avoid hi lo altogether with most hosts and just ask for a show even if it is from a soft core host that says go 121.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
In "little shy", the host might remove her panties sideways and sit down without letting you see what she is shy to show, while in "Not so shy" she shouldn't decline any request to be more explicit...
Apart from that, screen size of HiLo is an incitation to look for similar kind of show in 121 rather.
Apart from that, screen size of HiLo is an incitation to look for similar kind of show in 121 rather.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
She might do that, but I believe she would be violating the rules. Strip means strip and show, not slilding panties to the side. That type of thing is exactly why I think that game is horrible and would only play with a low priced host (to deal with the stalling) or a host I knew well (so I didn't have to worry about her violating the rules).
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
"In "little shy", the host might remove her panties sideways and sit down without letting you see what she is shy to show, while in "Not so shy" she shouldn't decline any request to be more explicit..."
So you are saying a host in little shy can hide her goodies from the viewer while the hardcore host has to show all?
So you are saying a host in little shy can hide her goodies from the viewer while the hardcore host has to show all?
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
there is no difference, if host chooses to play she has to strip each time she looses off comes a piece of clothing....she is not allowed to stall if she does leave and report it....
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
Then if there is no difference, why have 2 separate categories?
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
the hi lo game itself is no different in any category, if a host picks to play it....she has to loose piece of clothing
there is only a difference in the hard core and soft core categories themselves.
there is only a difference in the hard core and soft core categories themselves.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
If there is no difference why not have Strip Hi Lo in its own category?
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
that is something you have to ask cc....loool....but again you also have to let the host know if you are expecting her to do more than just play the hi lo game.....
the game itself is the same in any category...
the difference comes when the member wants to do more than just play the hi lo game...because for quite a few members once she is naked he wants her to do more....
the game itself is the same in any category...
the difference comes when the member wants to do more than just play the hi lo game...because for quite a few members once she is naked he wants her to do more....
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
"they get u fully naked in strip hilo"
I have little shy hosts tell me all the time it is up to them what they do in video including 121.
I have little shy hosts tell me all the time it is up to them what they do in video including 121.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
of course, but as no toys viewer just leaves
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
" but as no toys viewer just leaves"
I've heard the same for full nudity too
I've heard the same for full nudity too
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
my point is when a guy gets host fully naked he in most cases wants to continue party as masturbation with toys or without, because he got horny and wants go till the end, if host refuses he goes to elsewhere. its one of reasons why softcore hosts dont like to do full strip.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
If a host does not want to play the hi lo game properly and does not want to be nude then she should not have a check mark by play hi lo game.
It is simple as that, no wonder members get confused and frustrated. It is ridiculous for a host to say she not have to get nude in the hi lo game all a member has to do is ask cc
It is simple if a host does not want to be nude then do not play the hi lo game. STOP making it difficult for everyone!!!
It is simple as that, no wonder members get confused and frustrated. It is ridiculous for a host to say she not have to get nude in the hi lo game all a member has to do is ask cc
It is simple if a host does not want to be nude then do not play the hi lo game. STOP making it difficult for everyone!!!
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
I talking in general, not about strip hilo game, I know the rules.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
" its one of reasons why softcore hosts dont like to do full strip."
Ok fair enough. So by extension you are saying all hosts in hardcore must use toys? Because I've come across quite a few in hardcore that never use toys. Does that mean they are in the wrong category?
Ok fair enough. So by extension you are saying all hosts in hardcore must use toys? Because I've come across quite a few in hardcore that never use toys. Does that mean they are in the wrong category?
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
I never said that hardcore hosts MUST use toys. I just say why I sometimes dont go to play Strip Hilo, because after the game is finished members want more and more.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
Ok now I understand, you prefer to chat rather than strip due to requests for toys from some members.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
I prefer dance and bouncing in lingerie or topless. Sometimes if Im in mood all naked and maybe more if I got horny after it, but without toys or at least with just a little vibro.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
If a host plays hi lo game she is obligated to remove clothing each time she looses a hand. by end of game she must be nude. unless the two of agree before playing the game.
Any host in lil shy that says she does not have to be nude by end of game is lying. on every hosts log in page it says, the following regarding the game word for word...
"
I’m available for Adult Strip Games
Adult Strip Games is a new way for Viewers and Chathosts to have fun and engage in Live Video Chat!
Games currently available: Strip HiLo Multiplayer
Please ensure you know how to play Strip HiLo before you begin - click here to learn
Nudity is compulsory within this option; only select this if you are willing to conform with this rule."
Any host in lil shy that says she does not have to be nude by end of game is lying. on every hosts log in page it says, the following regarding the game word for word...
"
I’m available for Adult Strip Games
Adult Strip Games is a new way for Viewers and Chathosts to have fun and engage in Live Video Chat!
Games currently available: Strip HiLo Multiplayer
Please ensure you know how to play Strip HiLo before you begin - click here to learn
Nudity is compulsory within this option; only select this if you are willing to conform with this rule."
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
I think this whole thread makes the point of why I hate hi lo. I strongly recommend you reconsider using this option. But if you do use it, and the host either stalls such as taking forever to remove a piece of clothing or pick higher/lower or she refuses to get naked or show you her body once naked (not necessarily spreading in soft core but at least showing you all and continuing to do so), then do yourself and every member a favor and report her to CC and request a credit. This game is a big scam in my opinion so be careful.
RE: Is there any difference between Softcore Strip Hi Lo and Hardcore Strip Hi Lo?
the game is fun as long as u don't use it to stall.....u can do many things with the game when agreed to between the member and host before hand....
so to say the game is a scam is wrong,,,, it is the hosts that stall that don't follow the rules....
so to say the game is a scam is wrong,,,, it is the hosts that stall that don't follow the rules....
More Missing in Action
Was looking back through my favorites list and wondered if anyone knew what had happened to Fierykiss and Devilishsoul? Did they quit? move on? change names? or what?
RE: More Missing in Action
I don't know about those 2 but there is much name changing that goes on here.
RE: More Missing in Action
DevilishSoul likely achieved her pinnacle of manipulation, deceit and misanthropy and moved on.
RE: More Missing in Action
In what way was she deceitful? I always found her refreshingly direct and honest.
RE: More Missing in Action
Apparently direct and honest to draw you in, yes. Men on this site are just a game to her. That says it all. Nothing more to say.
RE: More Missing in Action
I think it is clear that hosts treat members differently. That's for a lot of reasons not the least of which is how the member treats her. It like when someone tells you there is an idiot in the room...and you can't find him...well guess what.
RE: More Missing in Action
"I think it is clear that hosts treat members differently"
You said it all.
You said it all.
RE: More Missing in Action
"I think it is clear that hosts treat members differently. That's for a lot of reasons not the least of which is how the member treats her."
Its all about customer service. In my business, I have to treat all my customers the same, whether they are nice or rude......I dont get the luxury of treating my rude pain in the ass customers the same way they treat me, I still have to treat them nicely. You would think it would be the same here...
Its all about customer service. In my business, I have to treat all my customers the same, whether they are nice or rude......I dont get the luxury of treating my rude pain in the ass customers the same way they treat me, I still have to treat them nicely. You would think it would be the same here...
RE: More Missing in Action
the girls own their business, they can choose how to treat rude customers however they please and not by some management on size fits all rule
RE: More Missing in Action
For your relationship I hope you only mean your male GUESTS are money game, not ALL men...
Hugs:)
Hugs:)
RE: More Missing in Action
Must be pretty schizophrenic and troublesome;)
But I thought we men are the hunters and you hosts are the game which eventually just might escape...
I like that idea. Wanna meet BB?
Hugs))))
But I thought we men are the hunters and you hosts are the game which eventually just might escape...
I like that idea. Wanna meet BB?
Hugs))))
RE: More Missing in Action
yes, i think you have summed it up perfectly. it is a game for the hosts to see how much money they can get.
RE: More Missing in Action
and in return for us viewers you are just an easy pickup who we always get;)
RE: More Missing in Action
WE TREAT MEMBERS DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING HOW THEY TREAT US!
u cant know how he treated them, u may only assume as u had to have all her members reviews and comments about that to get to this conclusion
saying he was played means u underestimated him as he had no brain to discover that.
u r too arrogant to claim u were the only capable enough that figured it out.
ofc u may twist my words which u will do but im fed up to see hosts trashed up bcs of frustrations.
nobody is saint here but we r humans afterall.
i apologize if brings more missunderstanding
u cant know how he treated them, u may only assume as u had to have all her members reviews and comments about that to get to this conclusion
saying he was played means u underestimated him as he had no brain to discover that.
u r too arrogant to claim u were the only capable enough that figured it out.
ofc u may twist my words which u will do but im fed up to see hosts trashed up bcs of frustrations.
nobody is saint here but we r humans afterall.
i apologize if brings more missunderstanding
RE: More Missing in Action
if you read his posts closely, you might find he doesn't even know her. he's playing with the guy
RE: More Missing in Action
well if the way he talks it any indication then we all know how viewer treats the hosts, unless he talks that way of all women.
RE: More Missing in Action
One of the most common and saddest post are those from members searching for missing hosts. Over the past 8 years or so on CC i have seen hundreds. Most host when they leave...just disappear. Part of that is once they leave the studio they have no access to the software or equipment or have no intention of using their stuff at home. There are several host who left that I miss....but such is life.
RE: More Missing in Action
yes we do come here to read the forums now and then to see what members really thought of us as compared to how they are to us when in our video .....
why not use 'make new friends' category?
i notice on here constantly there seem to be some host in glamour and little shy who dont want to do any kind of a sexual show. so my question is, why dont all those hosts move to 'make new friends' category? it is completely against rules in those categories for anything sexual right? just curious, it seems like an obvious thing to do if you dont want to do a sexual show. am i missing something?
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
In those categories it is against the rules to talk about anything sexual or for the host to pose or dance in a teasing or suggestive way, flash underwear etc. Some hosts prefer to play it safe and stay in glamour. I have never visited a glamour host who was not ready to be a little bit naughty even if she didn't strip.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
"I have never visited a glamour host who was not ready to be a little bit naughty even if she didn't strip."
I have.
I have.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
You are really saying hat you have ben to glamour hosts who were not willing to do even a bit of teasing? Please give some names. And please do not say something like "all hosts from Tver"
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
CC would not allow me to post names. But it is most of the Glamour Girls I have seen in video over time.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
I have also seen (in video) hosts from Glamour and little shy that did not even wanted to stand up or be a little naughty some even do not like cyber chat while in video. I asked each of these of host why they are there and most of them say: Because I want to and many members like that I just watch them wank. I had mentioned those hosts b4, but cc does not like that and I und the reason.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
Thats weird, every host i visit in glamour has teased me. Most eventually strip. I admit most of them say they don't and didn't at first, but get to know them, it's not all that impossible.
I prefer the in and out option rather than coming back again and again until host says: Ok, today is your lucky day.
"....most of them say they don't and didn't at first, but get to know them,..."
Yes, I believe that too, but the "get to know them" sometime cost too much and I am not here for the chase.
Yes, I believe that too, but the "get to know them" sometime cost too much and I am not here for the chase.
RE: I prefer the in and out option rather than coming back again and again until host says: Ok, today is your lucky day.
Then glamour is probably not the category for you.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
"Thats weird, every host i visit in glamour has teased me. Most eventually strip."
So you are calling the thread starter and others liars?
So you are calling the thread starter and others liars?
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
There you go again, twisting words. He's saying he's had an entirely different experience. Nothing about them lying.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
The non adult rules are very strict. As another poster said, nothing having to do with sex is allowed. A host can't even drop her pen, bend over to pick it up, revealing her panties under a skirt, unless CC thinks it was 100% accidental and not an attempt to get around the rules.
If the host breaks the rules, she is banned from non adult. End of discussion. No appeals, and they are not going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I assume it is because of the laws in various jurisdictions that they are so strict. She can then use that account for adult, but she is done using non adult.
That is why people use glamour. They just don't want to have to worry about this type of thing. Plus, being in "adult" can attract guys that otherwise might never visit you and even without getting naked, you can do things to arouse their interest.
If the host breaks the rules, she is banned from non adult. End of discussion. No appeals, and they are not going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I assume it is because of the laws in various jurisdictions that they are so strict. She can then use that account for adult, but she is done using non adult.
That is why people use glamour. They just don't want to have to worry about this type of thing. Plus, being in "adult" can attract guys that otherwise might never visit you and even without getting naked, you can do things to arouse their interest.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
Years ago, a girl in non adult could make a private session and strip.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
That was years ago indeed. Then CC prohibited that and began to strictly enforce the rules of non-adult. It was at that time glamour category was introduced as a category between non-adult and adult but there was no way to establish consistently enforce the limits and so it was moved to adult softcore.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
And hence the birth of Glamour.... A dark day indeed, lol.
RE: why not use 'make new friends' category?
Poor non adult category hosts will never get their 5 portions of fruit and veg a day :(
some men on cc are realy hate the most beautiful girls?
members are angry ,some hosts are very beautiful sexy and busy non stop invideo? im notice some beauties have 3-4 stars,,,but in chat very kind and polite.pure jealousity ?
May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
I am not sure how to say this or if it will even matter considering what I have read in this forum. Myself and the rest of the family have so many mixed emotions, which is natural with any loss. Unfortunately as I finally found the post that I was looking for I now see what she saw.
As I read her notes and writings, I see that she did reach out to many. In person she was met with such phrases as "get over it, they were not really friends to begin with", on normal chat places and messanger, she was met with phrases such as "get over it. they were not really friends to begin with" and then on here she was met with pretty much the same phrases together with coldness, ridicule, accusations and uncaring people. Yes there were a one or two that showed some compassion, then there were those that mixed compassion with critizm and accusations, but the majority were without compassion and could not be bothered to even try to help her understand.
Most of you probably will not even remember her, nor her post, let alone care and from what I have read among the many different posted questions in this room and the responses that are given to those posts. I have a feeling that even this will get ridiculed and negative critizm.
For her it no longer matters, but for myself, I ask the same question that she did, together with why was it sooo hard for people to actually answer the question asked instead of the things that were said. I did try to help but seeing as I was a friend to her and not just someone who uses the word "friend" to get something from her, I could not help much.
She only asked a simple question, hoping to get some honest helpful responses from those who do such things, as well as from those who have had the same thing happen to them. Yet what she got was the above. She did not feel that she would get much help here, But I told her the only stupid question is one not asked. She told me about this place and as I knew the answers that she had been getting from adults in person, adults at places that were not sex sites nor dating sites, messanger, and even those who did the hurting. So I convinced her to give it a try. I thought that such a place as this with soooo many diverse people that she might get some helpful answers from other adults. well that was very wrong of me, as just about everyone here made it all about money, when it had nothing to do with money.
So now as I sit at one of her relative's computer, waiting to lay her to rest. I ask the same two questions that she asked. One Question being.... "How Stupid Am I"?
May you be at peace my wonderful friend. xxx
As I read her notes and writings, I see that she did reach out to many. In person she was met with such phrases as "get over it, they were not really friends to begin with", on normal chat places and messanger, she was met with phrases such as "get over it. they were not really friends to begin with" and then on here she was met with pretty much the same phrases together with coldness, ridicule, accusations and uncaring people. Yes there were a one or two that showed some compassion, then there were those that mixed compassion with critizm and accusations, but the majority were without compassion and could not be bothered to even try to help her understand.
Most of you probably will not even remember her, nor her post, let alone care and from what I have read among the many different posted questions in this room and the responses that are given to those posts. I have a feeling that even this will get ridiculed and negative critizm.
For her it no longer matters, but for myself, I ask the same question that she did, together with why was it sooo hard for people to actually answer the question asked instead of the things that were said. I did try to help but seeing as I was a friend to her and not just someone who uses the word "friend" to get something from her, I could not help much.
She only asked a simple question, hoping to get some honest helpful responses from those who do such things, as well as from those who have had the same thing happen to them. Yet what she got was the above. She did not feel that she would get much help here, But I told her the only stupid question is one not asked. She told me about this place and as I knew the answers that she had been getting from adults in person, adults at places that were not sex sites nor dating sites, messanger, and even those who did the hurting. So I convinced her to give it a try. I thought that such a place as this with soooo many diverse people that she might get some helpful answers from other adults. well that was very wrong of me, as just about everyone here made it all about money, when it had nothing to do with money.
So now as I sit at one of her relative's computer, waiting to lay her to rest. I ask the same two questions that she asked. One Question being.... "How Stupid Am I"?
May you be at peace my wonderful friend. xxx
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
I am not sure who or what you are talking about. It sounds like you had a friend that worked as a host here and that she had a problem. She then posted about that problem, perhaps at your suggestion, and she got a bunch of insensitive answers. Then, the problem overwhelmed her and she is now dead, perhaps even by suicide.
I have no idea if I am right, but that is the best that I can do at decoding your post. Perhaps you really just posted for yourself, in honor of her memory, and don't really care if we understand or not and have no intention of telling us more.
All I can say is that there are good people and there are bad people everywhere, but, not that you should blame yourself for anything, an adult website really isn't the best place to come for advice. I suppose an exception would be if her problem was that she fell in love with a member and had her heart broken to such a degree that she couldn't take it any more and was asking for advice. Still, anyone here will tell you that while real relationships can develop, most of the time it is a bunch of nonsense. That would explain why people would be insensitive about such a problem. Nevertheless, even sarcastic responses could have served as a wake up call for her.
In any event, I could be wayyyyyyy off base here. I have no idea because you are extremely unclear in terms of what in the world you are talking about. But to attempt to blame people here, even if indirectly, for what occurred in her life is not fair to us. Your friend was not alone. She had you, and you discussed things with her it would seem, including things that occurred here. Again, I am not blaming you for anything, but to implicitly blame us is unfair as well. You were obviously a heck of a lot closer than any of us were.
I hope that whatever happened, you, her family and her friends will move pass this loss and that your friend will be at peace wherever she is. Take care.
I have no idea if I am right, but that is the best that I can do at decoding your post. Perhaps you really just posted for yourself, in honor of her memory, and don't really care if we understand or not and have no intention of telling us more.
All I can say is that there are good people and there are bad people everywhere, but, not that you should blame yourself for anything, an adult website really isn't the best place to come for advice. I suppose an exception would be if her problem was that she fell in love with a member and had her heart broken to such a degree that she couldn't take it any more and was asking for advice. Still, anyone here will tell you that while real relationships can develop, most of the time it is a bunch of nonsense. That would explain why people would be insensitive about such a problem. Nevertheless, even sarcastic responses could have served as a wake up call for her.
In any event, I could be wayyyyyyy off base here. I have no idea because you are extremely unclear in terms of what in the world you are talking about. But to attempt to blame people here, even if indirectly, for what occurred in her life is not fair to us. Your friend was not alone. She had you, and you discussed things with her it would seem, including things that occurred here. Again, I am not blaming you for anything, but to implicitly blame us is unfair as well. You were obviously a heck of a lot closer than any of us were.
I hope that whatever happened, you, her family and her friends will move pass this loss and that your friend will be at peace wherever she is. Take care.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
The post was on the 27th August, there were many replies, the usual mix of cc replies but i don't think anyone saw the post as a cry for help from a potential suicide victim. I think it is very hard for internet friends to see how serious problems such as depression are, I have some internet friends that i would say i'm very close to ( i've met them on occasions) and they have all been depressed at various times, i've tried to help cheer them up, i've tried pointing out that there are people with worse problems surviving, i've tried just being someone they can talk to about all their problems but i have to admit that there are times when i've thought to myself... here we go again.
I'm not there to see how they are 24 hrs a day, i don't always see when they turn away and cry, i don't know how deep the problem is!
Regarding the root cause: why do people lie about being friends, i don't know, some people will always lie, that is just their nature or upbringing, the internet makes it easier to lie and then not have to deal with the consequences face to face.
I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend and the pain that is causing to her family. At least it seems she had a real friend in you and if it wasn't suicide i apologise.
I'm not there to see how they are 24 hrs a day, i don't always see when they turn away and cry, i don't know how deep the problem is!
Regarding the root cause: why do people lie about being friends, i don't know, some people will always lie, that is just their nature or upbringing, the internet makes it easier to lie and then not have to deal with the consequences face to face.
I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend and the pain that is causing to her family. At least it seems she had a real friend in you and if it wasn't suicide i apologise.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
I found the thread. It was so long that I read it fast so maybe I missed something, but I think I got the general idea. I guess my decoding of the original post above was pretty good.
If I understood correctly, this host thought that some guy was her friend and that the guy got her to sleep with him because he convinced her that to prove she was really his friend that she needed to have sex. Or maybe it was that once they met, even though she had said no sex before they met, the guy lied about having feelings for her and convinced her to have sex to show she loved him to. Anyway, I think I got the general idea, and that this situation happened more than once. And I think she went to visit the guy instead of the other way around.
I think that the guys involved were members, although I am not sure if she actually said this since she kept saying it had nothing to do with money, videos, et cetera. But what I am sure is that this type of thing happens all of the time in "real life" too and for the original poster above to attack us in any way is completely unfair. What happened to her happens to people every day, and the CC community is no better and no worse than the rest of the world regarding this particular issue. Just as I said in my initial response, there are good and bad people everywhere.
Further, as for responses to her post, as you said, it was the usual mix, but there were definitely some appropriate responses that sincerely tried to be useful. I vaguely recall seeing the original post, skimming over it, saying to myself that is was the same old, same old and moving on. But many others that did read it seemed to try to be helpful and to attack them now is completely unfair.
Also, there is no indication that I saw that this person was suicidal assuming that is what happened. She is angry and hurt but does not seem unstable. Her post is pretty well written, in fact so much so that based on a few words that she used, I think she may have been American or British, or at least studied English for a long time, and does not appear to be irrational at all. I also think the original poster here is a native English speaker as well which makes me think that the woman was too since they were friends in real, of course I am just guessing.
Nothing she says seems to be a "cry for help". It just seems to be a person saying "Why do people feel the need to lie and hurt people?" I think most of us have asked ourselves that question when we have been hurt and she just felt like venting about it in writing. But there is nothing there in what I saw to make me think she was emotionally unstable.
She obviously had some type of emotional issues. I believe that she said that she was not some young pup and had been hosting awhile so I am guessing she was a bit older (whether that means 25, 35 or 45, I have no idea), and that despite having friends and family that cared about her, she felt lonely anyway to the point where she might take her own life. How the original poster above could ever expect any of us to see any of that is beyond me.
This is a tragic situation and very sad. But I cannot say enough that I don't think anyone on CC that posted was responsible for what happened, and the more I think about it, the more angry I get at the original poster above for trying to blame us instead of looking in the mirror. There was nothing that to suggest that the woman was unstable and that things would end in tragedy, nor did anyone attack her to the point where she should have been pushed over the edge unless she was already there, and there was nothing to indicated that she was already at that edge.
Someone here speculated that maybe it was not a true story. I certainly hope not, but maybe the woman from the original post on August 27 wrote the above post too to warn people what could happen if we are not sensitive to other's feelings and nobody really died. Unfortunately, I am guessing she actually did die and a friend wrote the above post.
True or not, it does serve as a reminder to be sensitive to one another's feelings and to be honest with one another. But even if true, I don't think that we need to start walking on eggshells and watching every little thing we say. This forum is for expressing opinions and is not the suicide prevention hotline, and as someone suggested, are a bunch of strangers living on their computers (wanking, talking about sex, et cetera) really the ones you want to turn to for advice with a serious problem? There are good people here, but anonymous posts with anonymous responses really aren't the way to go especially on a site like this. She did at least turn to a real friend in real life, but sadly he could not help and wants to blame us for his loss now.
If someone indicates that they clearly need help, that would be different, but that woman's post seemed very typical. That is why I skipped over quickly and didn't even bother to respond. Had I known more, I might have tried to help, but none of knew more and to attack anyone here now is completely unfair and inappropriate.
To the original poster above, I am sorry for your loss. I am sure you tried your best to help your friend, and you shouldn't blame yourself. This woman clearly was making bad decisions and had issues that really required the help of a professional. But please do not blame us either.
Good luck.
If I understood correctly, this host thought that some guy was her friend and that the guy got her to sleep with him because he convinced her that to prove she was really his friend that she needed to have sex. Or maybe it was that once they met, even though she had said no sex before they met, the guy lied about having feelings for her and convinced her to have sex to show she loved him to. Anyway, I think I got the general idea, and that this situation happened more than once. And I think she went to visit the guy instead of the other way around.
I think that the guys involved were members, although I am not sure if she actually said this since she kept saying it had nothing to do with money, videos, et cetera. But what I am sure is that this type of thing happens all of the time in "real life" too and for the original poster above to attack us in any way is completely unfair. What happened to her happens to people every day, and the CC community is no better and no worse than the rest of the world regarding this particular issue. Just as I said in my initial response, there are good and bad people everywhere.
Further, as for responses to her post, as you said, it was the usual mix, but there were definitely some appropriate responses that sincerely tried to be useful. I vaguely recall seeing the original post, skimming over it, saying to myself that is was the same old, same old and moving on. But many others that did read it seemed to try to be helpful and to attack them now is completely unfair.
Also, there is no indication that I saw that this person was suicidal assuming that is what happened. She is angry and hurt but does not seem unstable. Her post is pretty well written, in fact so much so that based on a few words that she used, I think she may have been American or British, or at least studied English for a long time, and does not appear to be irrational at all. I also think the original poster here is a native English speaker as well which makes me think that the woman was too since they were friends in real, of course I am just guessing.
Nothing she says seems to be a "cry for help". It just seems to be a person saying "Why do people feel the need to lie and hurt people?" I think most of us have asked ourselves that question when we have been hurt and she just felt like venting about it in writing. But there is nothing there in what I saw to make me think she was emotionally unstable.
She obviously had some type of emotional issues. I believe that she said that she was not some young pup and had been hosting awhile so I am guessing she was a bit older (whether that means 25, 35 or 45, I have no idea), and that despite having friends and family that cared about her, she felt lonely anyway to the point where she might take her own life. How the original poster above could ever expect any of us to see any of that is beyond me.
This is a tragic situation and very sad. But I cannot say enough that I don't think anyone on CC that posted was responsible for what happened, and the more I think about it, the more angry I get at the original poster above for trying to blame us instead of looking in the mirror. There was nothing that to suggest that the woman was unstable and that things would end in tragedy, nor did anyone attack her to the point where she should have been pushed over the edge unless she was already there, and there was nothing to indicated that she was already at that edge.
Someone here speculated that maybe it was not a true story. I certainly hope not, but maybe the woman from the original post on August 27 wrote the above post too to warn people what could happen if we are not sensitive to other's feelings and nobody really died. Unfortunately, I am guessing she actually did die and a friend wrote the above post.
True or not, it does serve as a reminder to be sensitive to one another's feelings and to be honest with one another. But even if true, I don't think that we need to start walking on eggshells and watching every little thing we say. This forum is for expressing opinions and is not the suicide prevention hotline, and as someone suggested, are a bunch of strangers living on their computers (wanking, talking about sex, et cetera) really the ones you want to turn to for advice with a serious problem? There are good people here, but anonymous posts with anonymous responses really aren't the way to go especially on a site like this. She did at least turn to a real friend in real life, but sadly he could not help and wants to blame us for his loss now.
If someone indicates that they clearly need help, that would be different, but that woman's post seemed very typical. That is why I skipped over quickly and didn't even bother to respond. Had I known more, I might have tried to help, but none of knew more and to attack anyone here now is completely unfair and inappropriate.
To the original poster above, I am sorry for your loss. I am sure you tried your best to help your friend, and you shouldn't blame yourself. This woman clearly was making bad decisions and had issues that really required the help of a professional. But please do not blame us either.
Good luck.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
"I am sorry but this is really not a place for dramas."
Are you kidding me. this is Soap Opera Central.
Are you kidding me. this is Soap Opera Central.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
how were we supposed to know what's going on given we didn't even know who she is and her posts always left room for interpretation? sometimes it's hard to tell what's going on with friends you've known and been close to forever. and why would the question 'why people lie' matter? was any reason anyone would have given her make a difference? no it wouldn't. i'm sorry she was naive enough to believe it would
take care xox
take care xox
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
I understand your pain and sadness if you feel something could have been done better and this Forum didn't fulfil your expectations.
Contrarily to what some above posts state, I tend to believe the microcosm of such a site is indeed not representative of the whole population, but still reflects some features of real life.
I was told somebody could be dying in the street in New York, and passers-by would just walk around and along to avoid getting into trouble. It's surely the same here, as we could read: "this is not a place for dramas".
As in other professions (or in a jungle), hosts compete for business (or survival), with more or less toughness and respect for others, and rather considering other hosts' problem as a normal outcome or advantae for themselves in this pitiless competition.
And there are people who feel alone in a crowd, alone in a city where they are ignored from others. Same here, except that a host has the opportunity to see guests when he or she is on line.
You surely did the right thing to suggest your friend should drop this "bottle with a message" into the sea. If she had found a true friend on line - it happens too - she could have shared a burden that was too heavy for her shoulders. Unfortunately she didn't have or find such a person or she didn't manage to move the passive crowd of hosts and guests, each seeking a personal achievement in joining CC.
Thanks for bringing this touch of humanity into a place where many people have an overdimensioned ego.
Contrarily to what some above posts state, I tend to believe the microcosm of such a site is indeed not representative of the whole population, but still reflects some features of real life.
I was told somebody could be dying in the street in New York, and passers-by would just walk around and along to avoid getting into trouble. It's surely the same here, as we could read: "this is not a place for dramas".
As in other professions (or in a jungle), hosts compete for business (or survival), with more or less toughness and respect for others, and rather considering other hosts' problem as a normal outcome or advantae for themselves in this pitiless competition.
And there are people who feel alone in a crowd, alone in a city where they are ignored from others. Same here, except that a host has the opportunity to see guests when he or she is on line.
You surely did the right thing to suggest your friend should drop this "bottle with a message" into the sea. If she had found a true friend on line - it happens too - she could have shared a burden that was too heavy for her shoulders. Unfortunately she didn't have or find such a person or she didn't manage to move the passive crowd of hosts and guests, each seeking a personal achievement in joining CC.
Thanks for bringing this touch of humanity into a place where many people have an overdimensioned ego.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
It is very difficult to evaluate another's state of mind through what they write... esp. in a site like this... but I do think you have a point.
We could be a bit more compassionate. We could try a little harder to get out of the shell of our own comfortable selves.
We could be a bit more compassionate. We could try a little harder to get out of the shell of our own comfortable selves.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
Of course, you do need to protect yourself from the cruelties of others, and you have my respect.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
I think you have missed the entire point of the post. Lying was the problem to begin with, Lack of compassion the subsequent response. The moral of the story is for us to be honest in our dealings with others here, as well as compassionate. (good term, SeemsReal)
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
I am sorry that you have lost a friend. I remember the post and the long string of replies. I did not reply because i could not think of anything constructive to add. I do not see how those that did post could be in any way held responsible for what has happened. It was clear from her post that she was in such a desperate state that this was her last resort. And as she did not give her name it was not possible for anyone not very familiar with her situation to know who she was. I really wonder what help any replies here could have been.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
Your post (1) angers me, (2) makes me wonder, and (3) distresses me
(1)
it angers me because I hear you blaming us for your friend's suicide. I'm sorry but this is NOT an appropriate place to come for advice. There is a term used in AA groups -- "Stinking Thinking" -- and in my opinion, coming to a webcam sex site for advice on social relationships is just that. For one thing, seeking advice from anonymous strangers is crazy. Go to a trusted friend, or to a professional counselor, not to some nameless, faceless person whom you have no idea if you can trust to have your best interest at heart, or if they have any idea what they are talking about. Given the nature of this site, and these forums, what other kind of responses did your "friend" expect?
Secondly, it angers me, because frankly, while SOME replies said in the orginal thread may have been critical or uncaring (and not all were, not by any means), a person who commits suicide is emotionally unstable. They are depressed. They are already "on the brink." They are not thinking clearly. And while the replies in the original thread may have been "the straw that broke the camel's back", they are not the primary factor in your friend's supposed suicide. The problem was within her.
For a third thing (and I'm sorry folks, but I'm calling it as I see it) probably the majority of folks who are posting in these forums are the last persons in the world to be seeking social advice from. If we were experts at social relationships, would we REALLY need to be on a site such as this getting our "needs" met (whether sexual or relational)?
(2)
It makes me wonder if this is not just some fantastic piece of fiction, or some morbid little game you are playing. Because really we have no way of knowing if what you said is really true. The original poster was anonymous. Your post is anonymous. How do we know the whole thing was not some charade? How do we know that you are not the original poster of "How Stupid Am I" carrying on some well-planned, morbid game designed to make people feel bad? How do we know your motive is not just to generate a false guilt trip in the readers here by creating some made up "suicide" story?
Give us the "host's" name. Show us the "obituary." Maybe then we can believe you. And if I read your post correctly, you said that you "could not help because you were a friend"? Baloney! You were the best person to help her. You said that you "referred her to here for advice"? How responsible is that, not knowing the site or what it is like? So how can I help but wonder what your motives are? Looks to me more like shifting blame (that is, if your friend really did commit suicide).
(3)
And finally, it does distress me... because it may be true. And though I was not a contributor on that particular thread, I have at times said things here in these forums that, if I knew the person in real life, probably would not have said... or if I knew the person was teetering on the brink, would have thought twice about my words. That's probably the real danger of sites like this -- we really don't know, who we are addressing with our cutting remarks, or hurtful slurs. We don't know what their level of emotional maturity is, or for that matter if they are even adults (mentally or chronologically). We just throw out our hostilities without really thinking that the person on the other end is a real person, with real feelings, real needs, maybe real problems. I do know that there are a lot of lonely people here, who can easily misinterpret fantasy for reality, and who are setting themselves up to be hurt. I know, too, there are many (both hosts and members) who have little regard for those whose hearts they are playing with, and so make promises that are not true. There is that much at least which is definitely true in the original thread.
(1)
it angers me because I hear you blaming us for your friend's suicide. I'm sorry but this is NOT an appropriate place to come for advice. There is a term used in AA groups -- "Stinking Thinking" -- and in my opinion, coming to a webcam sex site for advice on social relationships is just that. For one thing, seeking advice from anonymous strangers is crazy. Go to a trusted friend, or to a professional counselor, not to some nameless, faceless person whom you have no idea if you can trust to have your best interest at heart, or if they have any idea what they are talking about. Given the nature of this site, and these forums, what other kind of responses did your "friend" expect?
Secondly, it angers me, because frankly, while SOME replies said in the orginal thread may have been critical or uncaring (and not all were, not by any means), a person who commits suicide is emotionally unstable. They are depressed. They are already "on the brink." They are not thinking clearly. And while the replies in the original thread may have been "the straw that broke the camel's back", they are not the primary factor in your friend's supposed suicide. The problem was within her.
For a third thing (and I'm sorry folks, but I'm calling it as I see it) probably the majority of folks who are posting in these forums are the last persons in the world to be seeking social advice from. If we were experts at social relationships, would we REALLY need to be on a site such as this getting our "needs" met (whether sexual or relational)?
(2)
It makes me wonder if this is not just some fantastic piece of fiction, or some morbid little game you are playing. Because really we have no way of knowing if what you said is really true. The original poster was anonymous. Your post is anonymous. How do we know the whole thing was not some charade? How do we know that you are not the original poster of "How Stupid Am I" carrying on some well-planned, morbid game designed to make people feel bad? How do we know your motive is not just to generate a false guilt trip in the readers here by creating some made up "suicide" story?
Give us the "host's" name. Show us the "obituary." Maybe then we can believe you. And if I read your post correctly, you said that you "could not help because you were a friend"? Baloney! You were the best person to help her. You said that you "referred her to here for advice"? How responsible is that, not knowing the site or what it is like? So how can I help but wonder what your motives are? Looks to me more like shifting blame (that is, if your friend really did commit suicide).
(3)
And finally, it does distress me... because it may be true. And though I was not a contributor on that particular thread, I have at times said things here in these forums that, if I knew the person in real life, probably would not have said... or if I knew the person was teetering on the brink, would have thought twice about my words. That's probably the real danger of sites like this -- we really don't know, who we are addressing with our cutting remarks, or hurtful slurs. We don't know what their level of emotional maturity is, or for that matter if they are even adults (mentally or chronologically). We just throw out our hostilities without really thinking that the person on the other end is a real person, with real feelings, real needs, maybe real problems. I do know that there are a lot of lonely people here, who can easily misinterpret fantasy for reality, and who are setting themselves up to be hurt. I know, too, there are many (both hosts and members) who have little regard for those whose hearts they are playing with, and so make promises that are not true. There is that much at least which is definitely true in the original thread.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
Hmm...u mean someone asked forum of sex-site a question, didn like the answers and kill yourself??? I hope you are kidding here.
RE: May you be at peace my wonderful friend......
Sadly, I've seen such topics used by trolls to play on the emotions of others. It's both sad and creepy as hell to think, but I wouldn't be surprised if a post was later made by the author of the first in this thread just to admit that it's all a shame and laugh that he was able to screw with so many people's heads.
Seriously, if you have problems, go to your real friends and family - Don't seek the advice of strangers who don't and can't know the details of your situation.
Seriously, if you have problems, go to your real friends and family - Don't seek the advice of strangers who don't and can't know the details of your situation.
The Hectics!! Missing in Action
Anybody know where she has gone i've seen her on yahoo a few times as busy.. She never answers... We were pretty good friends at one point and she always had an amazingly sexy show. Anyone hear from her?
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
She took a job in a travel agency, then quit but didn't feel like coming back on cam. I guess she turned the page...
I share your regrets, a sweet beautiful girl with great personality
I share your regrets, a sweet beautiful girl with great personality
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action also MissWanda
Yeah. it seems a lot of the hosts with real persoanlity have gone. Anyone know wwhat happened to MissWanda? She never was on line much but was a fun and sexy girl.
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
ya i have no idea why we were really good friends... When shes on yahoo she never answers me... I don't know if i offended her or what I have done... Awesome girl tho.. I surely miss..
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
"When shes on yahoo she never answers me."
That's because she can't make any money on yahoo.
That's because she can't make any money on yahoo.
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
You sound like somebody who didn't know her personally... At the rates she used to charge, she never acted as a money grabber.
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
Détrompez-vous! I know and avoid Yahoo!
And I got news from this girl today, but not on it ;)
And I got news from this girl today, but not on it ;)
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
no, unless aguy is yours... but I can cc-mail you in case you wish and tell me how to
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
I do know Yahoo but my point was the contact with all cam girls is based on the exchange of money.
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
Okay, so you know it. but obviously not all that well. I stand by my original comment
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
Over the years I've had many hosts on Yahoo IM and as soon as I was not spending money in their pvt room, the IM contact ceased. Are we clear?
RE: The Hectics!! Missing in Action
At one point when I had my business running I had over 150 hosts in my yahoo. I will get about 100 offline messages every morning such as: I miss you baby - Where are you? - I love you, come to me - You are the best I know - etc. I lost my business I stopped coming in video and guess what? Not a single wh*re contacted me ever after I explained them I wasnt coming to video because I had lost my business. Now I have a new business, new host friends, but no more yahoo I dont believe a word they say anymore. Ha!
RE: A thought.........
this man need a doll.not a wife.how can he compare woman and car?wtf. and ofc natural tits are always better than fake
RE: A thought.........
I like big tits, little tits, but only REAL tits. Some fake tits are ok if small or medium, but the big ones look so wierd. And all fake tits feel fake.
RE: A thought.........
Hate them.. true beauty lies with in..not in the size of your breasts..
RE: A thought.........
I'm not really a boob man so for me it's either very small boobs or a huge pair of fake boobs.
RE: men forget that women boobs are not really for them.
True..but then again they don't put them in sexy push up bras and peek cleavage out of their shirts for their children ;)
RE: men forget that women boobs are not really for them.
Good one! Also babies don't care how big they are just mama so she can get a daddy for the baby...
RE: men forget that women boobs are not really for them.
say 2 kids, 18 months each, that is 3 years of feeding, and a whole life of looking sexy for men. So tits are for men!
not for men
God gave woman 2 tits to feed kids, but men see a woman only in a sexy way, from here fetish for nails or bullshit:). After having kids , breast cant just disapear LOL, stays there for the next kids,so really breasts are not for men, this is a damaged idea through the years and women also understood it like men, thats why they put silicons LOL imagine their future kids sucking their plastic tits LOOL
RE: not for men
I think God gave women two tits, for feeding kids, yes, but also because men find them sexually arousing. The purpose is two-fold. Not just one purpose.
RE: not for men
Like I posted in an earlier thread, after my male enhancement, my testicles are not 36DD
RE: A thought.........
Silicon breasts are a great comfort for a woman who may have lost hers to Breast Cancer. In that text I say make yourself happy and may you heal completely and be Cancer Free. But to have plastic surgery just because you want to be larger. If it is a matter of doing it to gain your self esteem than do what's best for you. If it's to attract more men here use your money for better things.
RE: A thought.........
Yehhhhhhh, Pussy Iips enhancements are much better! The bigger the better!
RE: A thought.........
I think the most beautiful women are always those that are happy with the body nature gave them.
Plus, even not taking into account what fake breasts say about the character of the woman who gets them, they just really, really creep me out.
Plus, even not taking into account what fake breasts say about the character of the woman who gets them, they just really, really creep me out.
RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
I have seen plenty of hosts over the past 6 years, I also had a fiance' that was a host so I've seen both sides of this game. I know what it is like and I can tell you what works and what doesn't. So this is only my opinion and you can ignore it if you want. But trust me, these small things can make the difference between being an average host, and being a great host.
1. Your archive is your first impression- If your archive has little to no pictures in it, the viewer does not have much to go on. You may think that since you don't get paid to make pictures that they aren't worth doing but pictures are what get you the viewers to get you paid. Take plenty of them, you will gradually get better at taking them over time. Go back later and delete pictures that do not look good. But at the same time take pictures that are accurate. You may think that because that crazy angle hides the fact that you are not thin and that it will get a viewer into your room, and sometimes you'll be right, but they won't stay. Also, take at least one picture when you start your session so that a member will have a reasonable idea about what you look like today. If you don't like the picture you can delete it later. Ok enough on this topic.
2. Do not start your session until you have prepared yourself- Do your makeup, get dressed up however you feel puts your best look out there, but do this before you start. It is frustrating to walk into a session of a girl who is definitely beautiful when she gets herself ready, but today she looks average. The problem with doing this is that you lose repeat business by not doing this. If the viewer sees you at less than your best, next time he's going to try someone else. Be at your best when you start.
3. Do not stall to make a session drag out, or be judgemental about how long a member stays- It's their money, they can stay for as short as they like or as long as they like. Don't try to eek out a couple of extra dollars by asking questions that you don't care about. I'm not saying that if you have an interesting topic that you shouldn't talk. I'm saying that if you are asking a question that you obviously don't care about the answer, you are wasting my time. And which viewer do you prefer, the guy who comes to your session once for 30 mins, or the guy who comes ten times for ten mins? I'm paying you for this service and the last thing I expect is for you to carry a low opinion of me just because you don't think I spent enough money. That is low class and there are other girls out there if you don't want the business.
4. Pay attention to your text chat- I am not saying that you have to allow a customer to sit all day in free text and waste your time. But if I say hi, there is a good chance that I want to make sure you are there first, and many viewers would like to discuss what they would like to see prior to entering. This may not seem important to you at all. But this saves you from bad sessions far more often then you realize. Also, along with what I said about not stalling I would say this. Do not expect me to pay you to talk to me in video when you could not talk to me in text. If you are a host that simply refuses to have anything to say to me until I'm paying, then you should be just fine with starting immediately.
5. Have at least 2 outfits that are different than what you are wearing- If you work at a studio, take a bag with a few different choices. Many viewers will look at your pics and will enter your room based on how you look in a particular pic. The closer you can come to the way you look in that pic the easier it is going to be for you to please the viewer. You may think that it is a pain to change your clothes but ask yourself this....If you have a choice between having a customer love you show, and having them think it was just ok, which do you want.
6. Listen to what your viewer is asking you for- Pay attention and if you don't understand tell them. I know many of you do not speak certain languages perfectly, so if you don't understand what they are asking just ask them. They will appreciate you doing so rather than ignoring what they are saying.
7. Respect your viewers- If you do not want to contact them outside of this site then don't give them information. Don't make a customer feel like a friend and doing make a friend feel like a customer. If you lead someone to think one thing and then do something else you will only lead them to anger. Most viewers expect you to have a boyfriend or be married, so don't feel like you have to lie about everything in your life. Don't tell obvious lies. If your 18 and and 48 and you tell me "that's a perfect age" I'm not a moron. You don't need to compliment things that are obviously not what you want to be complimented on. All a viewer wants is to see you happy and to be treated kindly.
I could go on but for the most part those are good basic rules. I hope it helps someone. And trust me, even though you may think that everyone knows these things. I assure you that less than 30% of you actually do them. And even if you do these things, you can find other things to do better. Everyone can improve.
1. Your archive is your first impression- If your archive has little to no pictures in it, the viewer does not have much to go on. You may think that since you don't get paid to make pictures that they aren't worth doing but pictures are what get you the viewers to get you paid. Take plenty of them, you will gradually get better at taking them over time. Go back later and delete pictures that do not look good. But at the same time take pictures that are accurate. You may think that because that crazy angle hides the fact that you are not thin and that it will get a viewer into your room, and sometimes you'll be right, but they won't stay. Also, take at least one picture when you start your session so that a member will have a reasonable idea about what you look like today. If you don't like the picture you can delete it later. Ok enough on this topic.
2. Do not start your session until you have prepared yourself- Do your makeup, get dressed up however you feel puts your best look out there, but do this before you start. It is frustrating to walk into a session of a girl who is definitely beautiful when she gets herself ready, but today she looks average. The problem with doing this is that you lose repeat business by not doing this. If the viewer sees you at less than your best, next time he's going to try someone else. Be at your best when you start.
3. Do not stall to make a session drag out, or be judgemental about how long a member stays- It's their money, they can stay for as short as they like or as long as they like. Don't try to eek out a couple of extra dollars by asking questions that you don't care about. I'm not saying that if you have an interesting topic that you shouldn't talk. I'm saying that if you are asking a question that you obviously don't care about the answer, you are wasting my time. And which viewer do you prefer, the guy who comes to your session once for 30 mins, or the guy who comes ten times for ten mins? I'm paying you for this service and the last thing I expect is for you to carry a low opinion of me just because you don't think I spent enough money. That is low class and there are other girls out there if you don't want the business.
4. Pay attention to your text chat- I am not saying that you have to allow a customer to sit all day in free text and waste your time. But if I say hi, there is a good chance that I want to make sure you are there first, and many viewers would like to discuss what they would like to see prior to entering. This may not seem important to you at all. But this saves you from bad sessions far more often then you realize. Also, along with what I said about not stalling I would say this. Do not expect me to pay you to talk to me in video when you could not talk to me in text. If you are a host that simply refuses to have anything to say to me until I'm paying, then you should be just fine with starting immediately.
5. Have at least 2 outfits that are different than what you are wearing- If you work at a studio, take a bag with a few different choices. Many viewers will look at your pics and will enter your room based on how you look in a particular pic. The closer you can come to the way you look in that pic the easier it is going to be for you to please the viewer. You may think that it is a pain to change your clothes but ask yourself this....If you have a choice between having a customer love you show, and having them think it was just ok, which do you want.
6. Listen to what your viewer is asking you for- Pay attention and if you don't understand tell them. I know many of you do not speak certain languages perfectly, so if you don't understand what they are asking just ask them. They will appreciate you doing so rather than ignoring what they are saying.
7. Respect your viewers- If you do not want to contact them outside of this site then don't give them information. Don't make a customer feel like a friend and doing make a friend feel like a customer. If you lead someone to think one thing and then do something else you will only lead them to anger. Most viewers expect you to have a boyfriend or be married, so don't feel like you have to lie about everything in your life. Don't tell obvious lies. If your 18 and and 48 and you tell me "that's a perfect age" I'm not a moron. You don't need to compliment things that are obviously not what you want to be complimented on. All a viewer wants is to see you happy and to be treated kindly.
I could go on but for the most part those are good basic rules. I hope it helps someone. And trust me, even though you may think that everyone knows these things. I assure you that less than 30% of you actually do them. And even if you do these things, you can find other things to do better. Everyone can improve.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Whilst you have some useful snippets of advice, I feel your posting will be self-defeating. If you want the hosts to adopt your ideas, might have been advisable to have a less patronising tone, which will only serve to alienate them.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
I don't think I was patronizing at all honestly. Whatever tone you would derive from reading it is only how you would perceive it. Everything I said was what I fully believe will help anyone doing this job. This is a job that doesn't come with any guidance, and the only feedback hosts tend to get is that they are either super hot, or that they suck. That doesn't help at all. So writing out some basic things that I have seen an experienced can be useful to any host that actually cares. Do I expect that to be the bulk of people reading it? No, of course not. I don't think this is gonna change anyone's life. It's a forum post on an adult site. But there might be a few hosts that are trying to figure out how to earn a little better here and maybe this helps them out a little bit. Either way I wrote it because I was bored and wanted to do something that I felt was useful. It wasn't written with any malice and I wasn't trying to patronize anyone. I simply think that if viewers and hosts talk calmly about issues and tried to express their opinions a little bit more clearly that it cannot do any harm. I had a gf that did this and we talked a decent amount about it. So I decided to write this not only based on what I experienced as a viewer, but also what I have seen from the other side of the curtain. If you feel like that was self serving in some way then I really don't have any way to respond to that. You are gonna think what you want to think. I can only say that I wrote it from the heart and that I meant what I wrote.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
random, i like your post. and you should not pay attention to some attacks here. we say our honest opinions without insults. everyone gets trolled by intentional misreading here. but you should just ignore it.
although the girls here already do a great job i think your honest tips are very useful and will just make the experience better for hosts and viewers. so thank you!
jarle
although the girls here already do a great job i think your honest tips are very useful and will just make the experience better for hosts and viewers. so thank you!
jarle
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Yeah, it's not my opinion that these things are mandatory or vital, it's that these things will improve your service and will increase your earnings. I mean if you aren't doing pics every day but you are doing a good set a couple times a month that's going to be fine for the most part. But I do think that the more pictures you have the better it will be.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Well written and spot on. I find the hosts here to be thinking short term. They do not think of marketing themselves long term. Most anyway. They want to squeeze every penney out of the first session even if it mean alienating a potential regular. The smart hosts follow your guidelines and keep members coming back.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Random if I were a host, I'd tell you to take your advice and stick it where the sun don't shine. Trust me, no one in business likes to hear someone from the outside tell them how to run their business.
Hosts; In any business you either have it or you don't. Give it your best shot and if it works fine. If not then try something else. Good luck!
Hosts; In any business you either have it or you don't. Give it your best shot and if it works fine. If not then try something else. Good luck!
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
While i agree that all his points could all be valid I also think they are all fairly obvious. It's like me telling a mechanic not to wear his best suit to the garage as it may get dirty.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Perhaps they are doing well because they wear that outfit every time they are on line and they look that good....duh!! He is obviously referring to the ones that don't look a thing like their pics and are lazy and don't bother to put the energy in that she did for the pics in her profile. Think the key words are ....hosts....look as good or better than your posted pics or don't come on that day! Makes sense!!
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Disappointing coming from you Monika because you don't know me but I've had session with you and I think you actually do everything that I listed. I actually think you are a very good host. But to each there own I guess.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
A business that doesn't consider their customer's opinions or at the very least considers them is doomed to failure. The post was about things that would benefit both the member and the host. The most successful businesses are wired into their customers and think long term relationship.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
I actually was very happy to see his accuracy with what a hosts perspective should be to please and attract viewers. The ones that
are sarcastic or come back with faults for viewers are the ones that
need to regard it the most....in that aspect I think you are correct that
they will blow it off and that will be their loss...
are sarcastic or come back with faults for viewers are the ones that
need to regard it the most....in that aspect I think you are correct that
they will blow it off and that will be their loss...
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
When the person that is outside the business is a potential customer, and if that potential customer may be representative of a significant number of other potential customers, only a fool would not listen unless he is not interested in increasing the number of customers. A "take it or leave it" attitude when you run your business only works when you have a sufficient number of people that are taking and are not interested in obtaining more. I am sure that a lot of hosts would be very happy to have more members visiting them, and perhaps some of them could be assisted by following some of his advice.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
The one who pays is the one who's actually puts your biz to run. Otherwise if you dont hear your patron you will never have a damm thing to run. ;)
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
The more I read of the comments of both members and hosts on this forum, the more I'm thankful that this conglomerate of idiots has come together for the sole purpose of entertaining me :)
Thank you, hosts.
Thank you, members.
But most of all. Thank you, me.
Thank you, hosts.
Thank you, members.
But most of all. Thank you, me.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
And how did your relationship with your fiance develop or end after her following all the guidelines? You seem to be a ruthless businessman.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
There's really nothing to disagree with in your post since everything you say can potentially be helpful, but you missed what I feel is the most important thing of all: have a good main profile pic. That pic, not the archive pics, are the first impression, and I don't even look at the archive pics or profile if the profile pic doesn't get my attention. Way too many hosts have poor profile pics in my view, and I just skip right on past them.
If the profile pic gets my attention, I will then check the archives and price, and sometimes read the profile, especially for soft core hosts to see if they talk about stripping, 121, et cetera. Occasionally, I check the personal forum too. After that, if I am okay with the price based on what I see in the pics, I either go into text chat or video, depending on my mood, the category (more likely to jump into open if hard core since I know the host must strip), and the price (the lower the price, the more likely I will just go into open).
From there, if in video, whether I stay depends on 1) if I like what I see, 2) how I am treated and 3) is the host willing to do what I want, namely strip, in a reasonable amount of time (which of course depends on the category). I've made friends here, and a few of them never have stripped for me, but I almost never go into video without wanting a show the first time I meet a host.
If I go to text chat first, I do the basic chat dialogue, lol, and if soft core, will ask about nudity, sometimes directly and sometimes a little more subtly since some hosts hate this question.. I also sometimes do the basic dialogue in text to save a little money with a more expensive host even if in hard core. If a host won't talk to me or won't be specific enough for me, I just move on most of the time unless I really like her pics a lot and just can't resist checking her out, lol.
As for other things like outfits or asking what she does in video, I really don't care. I want her naked, and I don't focus on if she has toys, masturbates, does special things like anal, et cetera. Nudity is good enough although other things can be nice too. I'm pretty easy to please if the host is willing to get naked and if she follows the rules and doesn't pull the 121 garbage in hard core.
The only other thing I would suggest is a host in soft core really should put in her profile if she strips in open, 121, or both. Sometimes, I use the pics to judge what she does, but I know several hosts that won't even go topless even though they have topless archive pics. (This is against the rules by the way,,,, Your pics are supposed to reflect what you do in video.) But the key point here is that if I see you are soft core and have a high 121 price, I often won't take the time to visit you if your pics in my mind don't justify my paying to see you strip at that 121 price. However, many soft core hosts will strip in open so I won't have to pay that price. The problem is there are too many hosts so I really don't like taking the time to keep asking who strips in open, 121, or both, so unless your pics really make me want to see you, I might just assume you will make me pay that higher 121 price and skip past you whereas if I knew you would strip at the lower open price, I might actually visit you. That doesn't mean I never go 121, but your pics must make me think you are worth it, otherwise, I might not even give you a chance in open to get me to go 121, and I might not even take the time to talk to you to begin with, Hope that makes sense, lol.
If the profile pic gets my attention, I will then check the archives and price, and sometimes read the profile, especially for soft core hosts to see if they talk about stripping, 121, et cetera. Occasionally, I check the personal forum too. After that, if I am okay with the price based on what I see in the pics, I either go into text chat or video, depending on my mood, the category (more likely to jump into open if hard core since I know the host must strip), and the price (the lower the price, the more likely I will just go into open).
From there, if in video, whether I stay depends on 1) if I like what I see, 2) how I am treated and 3) is the host willing to do what I want, namely strip, in a reasonable amount of time (which of course depends on the category). I've made friends here, and a few of them never have stripped for me, but I almost never go into video without wanting a show the first time I meet a host.
If I go to text chat first, I do the basic chat dialogue, lol, and if soft core, will ask about nudity, sometimes directly and sometimes a little more subtly since some hosts hate this question.. I also sometimes do the basic dialogue in text to save a little money with a more expensive host even if in hard core. If a host won't talk to me or won't be specific enough for me, I just move on most of the time unless I really like her pics a lot and just can't resist checking her out, lol.
As for other things like outfits or asking what she does in video, I really don't care. I want her naked, and I don't focus on if she has toys, masturbates, does special things like anal, et cetera. Nudity is good enough although other things can be nice too. I'm pretty easy to please if the host is willing to get naked and if she follows the rules and doesn't pull the 121 garbage in hard core.
The only other thing I would suggest is a host in soft core really should put in her profile if she strips in open, 121, or both. Sometimes, I use the pics to judge what she does, but I know several hosts that won't even go topless even though they have topless archive pics. (This is against the rules by the way,,,, Your pics are supposed to reflect what you do in video.) But the key point here is that if I see you are soft core and have a high 121 price, I often won't take the time to visit you if your pics in my mind don't justify my paying to see you strip at that 121 price. However, many soft core hosts will strip in open so I won't have to pay that price. The problem is there are too many hosts so I really don't like taking the time to keep asking who strips in open, 121, or both, so unless your pics really make me want to see you, I might just assume you will make me pay that higher 121 price and skip past you whereas if I knew you would strip at the lower open price, I might actually visit you. That doesn't mean I never go 121, but your pics must make me think you are worth it, otherwise, I might not even give you a chance in open to get me to go 121, and I might not even take the time to talk to you to begin with, Hope that makes sense, lol.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Yes, that is an excellent point, I wish I could edit my op lol. Definitely correct that you absolutely need a great profile pic. And it really should reflect your best physical qualities.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
It may be bad for business but it is not against the rules for a host to have topless archive pics but not want to go topless. A host is only required by the rules to offer what is shown in her profile pic.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
"The image you portray through Profile Photos and 'latest' Archive photos MUST match the image you are able to offer in video at that moment (person(s), actions, quality, anything specifically advertised)."
A soft core host with recent pics (not sure if latest means just the most recent ones in the very first set or the last few sets of pics) that were topless would need to go topless. She might be able to say go 121, but she would have been waiving her right not to go topless by advertising that she did this.
Anyway, the hosts that I was thinking of don't have recent topless pics so it wouldn't matter. But I bet a bit of searching would show that others are violating this rule too. It isn't something I am worried about. I was just noting it. They lie about their age too and that is also against the rules, but I don't worry about that either.
A soft core host with recent pics (not sure if latest means just the most recent ones in the very first set or the last few sets of pics) that were topless would need to go topless. She might be able to say go 121, but she would have been waiving her right not to go topless by advertising that she did this.
Anyway, the hosts that I was thinking of don't have recent topless pics so it wouldn't matter. But I bet a bit of searching would show that others are violating this rule too. It isn't something I am worried about. I was just noting it. They lie about their age too and that is also against the rules, but I don't worry about that either.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
My age in profile younger than it is, but I always ready to change it if men said me I look older, so far 90% of viewers said me I look younger than even age in profile (LOL). Except one regular, he said I probably his age (that was 100% true) dont know how he could understand it, because other seem dont.
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Sounds like something discussed in an earlier thread about why men lie.
WIFE: "Honey, do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
HUSBAND: (thinking to self) "Hmmm, hell yes... they make your ass look like the broad side of a barn -- but if I tell her YES, my cattle are gonna have to graze out in the field tonight". (Out loud, to wife) "Well, NO, Baby, your ass looks just great in those jeans!"
WIFE: "Honey, do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
HUSBAND: (thinking to self) "Hmmm, hell yes... they make your ass look like the broad side of a barn -- but if I tell her YES, my cattle are gonna have to graze out in the field tonight". (Out loud, to wife) "Well, NO, Baby, your ass looks just great in those jeans!"
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Ah I thought it was going to be :-
WIFE: "Honey, do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
HUSBAND: "No the jeans do not make your ass look fat. Your ass looks fat because it is"
WIFE: "Honey, do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
HUSBAND: "No the jeans do not make your ass look fat. Your ass looks fat because it is"
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Oh really? Would love to see YOUR ass in jeans, I bet its fatter than mine 93 cm.. :)
But ok, will be know they all lie to me because....hmm...wanted to see me naked?! lol
I personally dont mind if someone find me "too old" for hosting, I nobody make to go to my room, my 1000 photos took by my cam, and there clearly see how look I am.
But ok, will be know they all lie to me because....hmm...wanted to see me naked?! lol
I personally dont mind if someone find me "too old" for hosting, I nobody make to go to my room, my 1000 photos took by my cam, and there clearly see how look I am.
Ok enough is enough,
Ok enough if ur gonna shred me apart at least pls don’t do it using something that has been taken out of context and misunderstood.
I know that viewer forum is for the viewers, and members are entitled to their opinions and such, and that is fine. However as hosts not only are we able to read what is posted, but we are also told by members what is posted about us in the forums, Normally I do not post in here without reason, as I always end up getting my ass chewed off for it.
But when something I say or do is misunderstood, and then people come to my room and text just to insult, call me all sorts of things and just be mean and cruel due to what they read, then I have a right to speak up. My saying "I need to be aroused to perform" has been taken out of context and misunderstood big time, and now I am being thrown to wolves and trashed because of it.
First, this post started with someone asking if I had changed, or if I was caught on a bad day, well we all have bad days, Just like we all have had our good day change by someone coming along who says or does something to put a wrench in it, and sometimes that happens when another person shows up at the same time who is nice, but we still have to deal with the not nice person the best way we can. Sorry to be human and sometimes it affects me, just like it would anyone else when dealing with it negtive people. You try to bounce back fast as u can and not let it affect others. Many hosts on here have had this happen to them, just like anyone one of u members have had it happen to u at work; and u, most likely if possible, give ur self the few minutes u need to let that go so u can continue and shake off the negative that was tossed at u, however at times it is not possible.
Second, when I say that I need to be aroused to perform, that means that if I am to be doing a specific sexual content such as certain touching below the waste or being asked to release certain juices, then yes I need to be aroused in order to do that. You guys do not release ur juices if you are not aroused or hard. You guys are not able to shove ur penis into a female if it is all soft and limp. So how can u expect a female to be able to do such things if she is dry as the Arizona Dessert, unless she is using some lotion that helps it look like real excitement.
I could see if I advertised such things or if I promised such things and then said no once in video, but no I do not and have never ever done that. I have always been that way even when I was in not so shy, I would be asked r u horny, and if not I would say, I am not horny enough to be able to insert a toy right away nor orgasm right away, lets face it many come to our rooms demanding and expecting us orgasm when they say no matter what category a host is in. So I simply suggest they go to instant action category. I changed to softcore category as I realised that being in the not so shy hardcore category and having members come in and say hi shove that toy in u and cum right now, was something that I was not able to do. So you see that one statement that is being repeatedly tossed around was very much taken out of context and misunderstood.
Third, So if my being honest and saying I am sorry but I am not able to do as u asked rather than lying about it and u being disappointed and pissed off at me and saying why didn’t u just say u couldn’t do it, I am sorry, but it is very unfair to bash me for being honest and saving u money; I do my job the best way I can, BUT!!!, I refuse to let a person spend their money thinking I will do something that I have already said "no I do not do that" or "no I am not aroused enough to do that" or "at this moment I am not able to". I am upfront and I will say sorry but no, just like other hosts on here that say no to doing certain things if they r not able to. My arousal zone does not stop me nor prevent me from doing many other requests that I am asked to do. There are a number of hosts on here that do not do certain things, some will tell u they don’t, some will pretend to do it, and some will simply stall and not do it all.
In any profession a professional will be honest and say I am sorry but the particular request, item or service u are wanting at the moment, is not possible right now. A professional will not go in the back room and find something they can pass off as what is wanted knowing full well it will not be acceptable. Instead a professional will direct the person to a place they can find exactly what they are looking at that particular moment.
Every day I listen to members complaining, and saying a host lied and why didn’t she just say she couldn’t do it, rather than tricking me into her video, stalling, draining my money and never doing what is asked or agreed to.
I do not expect people to arouse me, but there are those who do try and like to try, if u are not one of them that is fine, then i will simply let u know i am not able to do what ur asking, and will suggest that u look for someone who will;
I am in little shy softcore category; so yes ur damn right I need to be aroused if I am going to shove a toy in me or masturbate and shoot out juices; But I do not advertise that and I do not trick anyone into my video with such promises. So you are being extremely unfair to be ripping me apart for being upfront, for not wasting ur time and for not trying screw u out of ur money. I am in the category that best suits what I am able to do, which is another complaint that members have that hosts r not in the right category for what they r willing to do.
I thank those members that stood up for me and took a back lashing for it. :)
I hope u all have a great time with the host of ur choice that suits ur needs for that moment. hugggg.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Throwing Pearls Before Swine.... now THAT would make a great contest title.
Admins! Put this girl's genius to work!
Admins! Put this girl's genius to work!
RE: Ok enough is enough,
The first thing I would say is that I have no idea why you would even respond to something that silly to begin with, let alone write a novel about it. Anyone that expects someone to squirt on command is a moron and most would realize that just from reading it.
That being said, one comment you made about a host having a bad day and that "everyone does" . Well yeah, everyone does have bad days but if you are having a bad day then the professional thing would be to log off. If you don't feel like you can provide your customers with a good show then you shouldn't be charging them on a per minute basis. And you certainly should not be offended by someone who paid money for a show that they felt was not a good effort. The customer is always right is the motto you should live by. I know that is hard because no matter what job you have you are going to run into assholes but at those jobs you generally can't tell them that they are assholes. If you are reading negative things about you in either forum (which you really shouldn't be in the viewer forum to begin with, even if you are able to view it, there is a reason it is called a VIEWER forum) then maybe you should use that as a cause for reflection. You aren't going to please everyone by doing that, but you may end up becoming a better host. Now you can scoff at that advice if you like, but it is good advice. Everyone can always do better. And like I said at the beginning, just ignore ignorance, because let's face it. A hater is going to hate.
That being said, one comment you made about a host having a bad day and that "everyone does" . Well yeah, everyone does have bad days but if you are having a bad day then the professional thing would be to log off. If you don't feel like you can provide your customers with a good show then you shouldn't be charging them on a per minute basis. And you certainly should not be offended by someone who paid money for a show that they felt was not a good effort. The customer is always right is the motto you should live by. I know that is hard because no matter what job you have you are going to run into assholes but at those jobs you generally can't tell them that they are assholes. If you are reading negative things about you in either forum (which you really shouldn't be in the viewer forum to begin with, even if you are able to view it, there is a reason it is called a VIEWER forum) then maybe you should use that as a cause for reflection. You aren't going to please everyone by doing that, but you may end up becoming a better host. Now you can scoff at that advice if you like, but it is good advice. Everyone can always do better. And like I said at the beginning, just ignore ignorance, because let's face it. A hater is going to hate.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Please read her post again. She says that the thing that caused the bad day happened just before another member entered her video. She did not have a chnce to log off and take a recovery break. She did not say she was not able to give a show. Just that she could not do every request thrown at her at that time. SHe was up front in telling the viewer that she would not do what he asked at that time. The customer is not always right. The customer is not right when he tells a non-adult host to strip, when he says a soft core host has to get naked, when he complains that a not shy host does not start a show within 30 secs after h enters her video, when he asks a host to pee, poo etc etc.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
How about you read my post again. I started off by saying that guy was an idiot for requesting that and being miffed by her being physically unable to do that. And I acknowledge that she was up front with it. My point about the bad day stuff was not about THIS particular incident. It was in reference to her saying that hey, we all have bad days. My response to that was that you should not be doing this particular job if your bad day is going to keep you from doing it well. Viewers pay a lot of money for the service and they deserve to be given the best service for their money.
And as far as the customer always being right. Sure, you can go to extremes or nitpick situations to say not here or not here. But the point is that in this environment all too often there is an opinion somehow that the chathost and viewer are entitled equally. This simply is not true. If they were equal one would not be paying the other. The viewer deserves to be treated like he is a customer at any other business. If I go to mcdonalds and I tell them I want extra ketchup on my burger you don't get to tell me that you're having a bad day and the ketchup is too far away.
The difference between a great host and an average or bad host is gigantic. If you have a session with a host who smiles, is pleasant, is trying to have fun and treats you well, you never really even think about the money you just spent. But I promise you if you have an average session or a bad one the first thing you are thinking is, jesus how much did this shit cost? And you aren't going back. Any host can treat me as poorly as she wants to.........once.
And as far as the customer always being right. Sure, you can go to extremes or nitpick situations to say not here or not here. But the point is that in this environment all too often there is an opinion somehow that the chathost and viewer are entitled equally. This simply is not true. If they were equal one would not be paying the other. The viewer deserves to be treated like he is a customer at any other business. If I go to mcdonalds and I tell them I want extra ketchup on my burger you don't get to tell me that you're having a bad day and the ketchup is too far away.
The difference between a great host and an average or bad host is gigantic. If you have a session with a host who smiles, is pleasant, is trying to have fun and treats you well, you never really even think about the money you just spent. But I promise you if you have an average session or a bad one the first thing you are thinking is, jesus how much did this shit cost? And you aren't going back. Any host can treat me as poorly as she wants to.........once.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
I disagree that there is a widespread opinion that hosts and members are equal. The vast majority of hosts understand that the member is the customer. However being the customer does not give the member to act in anyway he wishes. If at McDonalds you yell "Give me exta ketchup on my burger right now you f*king bitch" you would probaly be asked to leave. In most business' the attitude of the customer influences the level of service he gets. If in a restaurant with water/waitress service you simply bark your order at the server you will get your food ok. If you smile, say please, maybe chat a bit with them you will get better attention, a better dining experience. If you go back you will get a warmer welcome, they will make sure you get a good table. From your other posts it is clear that when you visit hosts you are polite and so generally get treated well. In the cases where you have not been happy I am sure it is due to the host and not you.
However you seem to assume that all members treat hosts in the same way as you do and all members want the same things as you. I find this surprising as you say you were once engaged to a host and if she talked to you at all about her work you should know that neither is true.
However you seem to assume that all members treat hosts in the same way as you do and all members want the same things as you. I find this surprising as you say you were once engaged to a host and if she talked to you at all about her work you should know that neither is true.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
oh no, I did not mean to suggest that chathosts should be subject to inappropriate behavior at all, and I am quite aware of the bs that many of you are often subjected to and I don't agree with it. What I am saying is that if for any reason something is wrong with a hosts mood to where the next paying customer is not going to be treated like they should that the host should take responsibility and log off, that's all. I'm not saying that the client she was mistreated by is right, I'm saying that the next customer that has not done anything wrong should not pay the price for it.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Yes RandomOpinion I agree with you if having a bad then log off and take a break and that is what I do.
But when someone comes along and starts causing problems, you have to deal with that person the best way you can as well as others that come along at the same time. Be it if that person is in text or enters your video and then others show up at same time. all you can is your best to not only calm the one throwing the wrench in there but also keep your calm until the wrench thrower calms down or leaves, you can not just up and leave without clearing the room.
I do not say yes to videos if I know I not able to do what is asked, if asked in text I say so no right away and if someone enters video without talkin in text first and tells me what they want, then again I tell them right away I am sorry but I do not do that and direct them to where they might find what they are looking for.
As for your comment about people paying, I agree but you can not do much when one just enters an open session and starts causing problems, be it them being in there first or entering while another is in there, again all you can do is deal with it the best you can. I know not everyone will be happy and I completely understand that. That is not why I posted.
But when someone comes along and starts causing problems, you have to deal with that person the best way you can as well as others that come along at the same time. Be it if that person is in text or enters your video and then others show up at same time. all you can is your best to not only calm the one throwing the wrench in there but also keep your calm until the wrench thrower calms down or leaves, you can not just up and leave without clearing the room.
I do not say yes to videos if I know I not able to do what is asked, if asked in text I say so no right away and if someone enters video without talkin in text first and tells me what they want, then again I tell them right away I am sorry but I do not do that and direct them to where they might find what they are looking for.
As for your comment about people paying, I agree but you can not do much when one just enters an open session and starts causing problems, be it them being in there first or entering while another is in there, again all you can do is deal with it the best you can. I know not everyone will be happy and I completely understand that. That is not why I posted.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Hon, the only thing I would say to you is that I don't think you needed to respond to that guy in the forums. I wouldn't dignify it with a response. I don't know you and haven't viewed you but you seem to represent yourself well. So if that's the case brush that off and do your job as well as you can.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
That is an angry post. I did manage to force myself to read the entire thing but omg why are you letting it effect like this? There will always be the case that you can please some of the people all the time and you can please all the people some of the time but you can not please all the people all the time!!
I think that you should not take it so personal. You certainly had voices that spoke up for you. So a few people spoke their thoughts that it should not be the job of the person paying to excite you when you're not in the mood if you do offer masturbation in your room. So the answer would be to chance losing a customer by telling them "no" when they ask if you will at a time when you're not aroused.
Good grief you've moved to softcore where it certainly isn't expected in general so if someone asks in chat if you will or comes in and asks in open just say "no" and not that you have to be aroused by the guy. All women need to be excited to truly get excited...it's call foreplay and when you work on here and say you're not in the mood it's not like going to bed and telling the guy that you want to have foreplay to get excited. On here it strikes them more like the wife that says I have a headache.
Either say yes or no. I understand what the guy was saying that posted the message. Why is he paying to excite you to do your job? He doesn't look at it that way. If you advertise it then they think you should do it. You are in the right category now but why do you feel that you need to try and make it their problem to get you excited?
It's a yes or no answer for what ever mood you are in.
In softcore why do you feel that you need to masturbate and cum??
It certainly is not expected so why make that an option if you don't feel like it?
OMG I have written as much as you did just trying to calm you and let you understand that when guys come here they are thinking you are ready and waiting...the last thing they want to hear is I have to be in the mood or stimulated....that is way too close to reality. You probably just don't understand it was your wording at the time so you have said your peace. Your profile is now drawing attention and I am sorry but you sound like you are mad at the world and hate men if they don't foreplay you.
This is fantasy and if you don't want to do that part you certainly don't have to fake it, or do it at all. Just don't make it their problem to get you excited girl.
Let it go and enjoy being in softcore without that expectation of cummmmmming....The answer you gave just left him confused and hanging. I would have asked you what time of the day, week or month are you in the mood?
Let it go and take some time off. You are here to be a sexy, teasing host that stimulates guys fantasies in whatever way you choose. You are not in hardcore any longer so change your thinking and you can still get great results and please the ones that like you. Goodluck Girl!!
I think that you should not take it so personal. You certainly had voices that spoke up for you. So a few people spoke their thoughts that it should not be the job of the person paying to excite you when you're not in the mood if you do offer masturbation in your room. So the answer would be to chance losing a customer by telling them "no" when they ask if you will at a time when you're not aroused.
Good grief you've moved to softcore where it certainly isn't expected in general so if someone asks in chat if you will or comes in and asks in open just say "no" and not that you have to be aroused by the guy. All women need to be excited to truly get excited...it's call foreplay and when you work on here and say you're not in the mood it's not like going to bed and telling the guy that you want to have foreplay to get excited. On here it strikes them more like the wife that says I have a headache.
Either say yes or no. I understand what the guy was saying that posted the message. Why is he paying to excite you to do your job? He doesn't look at it that way. If you advertise it then they think you should do it. You are in the right category now but why do you feel that you need to try and make it their problem to get you excited?
It's a yes or no answer for what ever mood you are in.
In softcore why do you feel that you need to masturbate and cum??
It certainly is not expected so why make that an option if you don't feel like it?
OMG I have written as much as you did just trying to calm you and let you understand that when guys come here they are thinking you are ready and waiting...the last thing they want to hear is I have to be in the mood or stimulated....that is way too close to reality. You probably just don't understand it was your wording at the time so you have said your peace. Your profile is now drawing attention and I am sorry but you sound like you are mad at the world and hate men if they don't foreplay you.
This is fantasy and if you don't want to do that part you certainly don't have to fake it, or do it at all. Just don't make it their problem to get you excited girl.
Let it go and enjoy being in softcore without that expectation of cummmmmming....The answer you gave just left him confused and hanging. I would have asked you what time of the day, week or month are you in the mood?
Let it go and take some time off. You are here to be a sexy, teasing host that stimulates guys fantasies in whatever way you choose. You are not in hardcore any longer so change your thinking and you can still get great results and please the ones that like you. Goodluck Girl!!
RE: Ok enough is enough,
This post was not written in anger nor was it posted in anger, frustration yes, but not anger. As I said I would not have even responded if not for the fact that people have been coming to me in my room and taking stripes off me. I didnt know about the post till it was brought to my attention.
This post is simply to inform something was taken out of context and to put it into the context that it said and meant. so that once said then maybe people would stop coming to my room and text just to rip strips off me for something that meaning was completely changed.
When asked if I do something I do say no. but then when i made that statement, i was being asked what will it take for me to do the explicit and I simply said in order to do it, I have to be aroused. that was it, I as was not asking anyone to. I was answering what was asked me. and this problem has come up since changing categories. I did not know answering two questions would cause so much trouble.
This post is simply to inform something was taken out of context and to put it into the context that it said and meant. so that once said then maybe people would stop coming to my room and text just to rip strips off me for something that meaning was completely changed.
When asked if I do something I do say no. but then when i made that statement, i was being asked what will it take for me to do the explicit and I simply said in order to do it, I have to be aroused. that was it, I as was not asking anyone to. I was answering what was asked me. and this problem has come up since changing categories. I did not know answering two questions would cause so much trouble.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Ashley, thank you for taking the time to be up front and honest. In this economy when every dollar is hard to come by it's refreshing to hear this from a host. maybe if the member spent some time in chat with you before going to video they wouldn't have these problems. And if they don't want to spend the money to arouse you in video perhaps it can be done in Private Chat then switch to video at the appropriate time. Guess I'll get bashed for this post but just offering my opinion.
Best of luvck in your hosting and private sessions.
Best of luvck in your hosting and private sessions.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
wow. if i wanted to hear a woman complain and ramble on endlessly i would have stayed married
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Just seems some are a bit more touchy or sensitive and need to explode with a long email chastising guys for their personal opinion which is a bit on the b*tchy side. It could have been handled with more grace than fury.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Some members just love whinning around. Yes we read all the time how they complain about hosts tricking them into video and then when they are in the session a host doesnt do what she promised to do in text chat (which is fair to complain about). They complain about hosts lieing about meeting in real or about feelings "yes,baby, i missed u and u mean so much to me, ure special to me."(which is also fair to complain). They complain about stalling, asking 100500 questions in vid when she agreed to preform. (fair to complain about too). I never do any of these things. Im always honest about what i do or dont do in video. I always say that its just a job for me and im not looking for anything real. If i agreed to show in text chat, i start preforming right away. I seem to be a good host, right? But no, im being trashed on a regular basis, for some ridiculous and imaginary reasons. And it was never mentioned even in my defence in any thread about me.
Seriously, dont pay attention to viewers forum, there will always be complains, a bunch of members just cant live without putting hosts down (usually those are popular and beautiful hosts). They can do it all they want, by the way, when such threads appear it always bring me additional traffic, and i earn 2-3 times more than usual. As there is no such thing as bad publicity :) Enjoy hosting :)
Seriously, dont pay attention to viewers forum, there will always be complains, a bunch of members just cant live without putting hosts down (usually those are popular and beautiful hosts). They can do it all they want, by the way, when such threads appear it always bring me additional traffic, and i earn 2-3 times more than usual. As there is no such thing as bad publicity :) Enjoy hosting :)
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Sounds like you do a good job to me, if what you said is accurate. Keep doing what your doing.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Yes it was just another post that convinced me that I am right to ignore everything that is written on the viewers forum.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Or, maybe it would be even cooler if you contributed to that forum in a more useful way. I mean it's fine to not care about what's there, but you took the time to write here, so seems maybe you do care. Personally, I'd like to see the forums be better.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
I have no desire to "spill the beans" on any of my cam sessions be they good or bad. From my experience posting a good review just get's the host a bashing from the large number of Neanderthals that frequent that forum. And posting a negative review may help those Neanderthals (something which I have no desire to do).
As for your "helpful" post on the viewer's forum, as leavis says, it was not really that much more helpful than the post that you derided.
As for your "helpful" post on the viewer's forum, as leavis says, it was not really that much more helpful than the post that you derided.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Which post did I deride exactly? Because that was not a response to any particular post. It was an illustration to say that when you post about multiple girls the diversity of the opinions should give it more credibility. If you didn't care for my review that's fine. It's your right to have your own opinion, I'm only stating mine. Personally the problem I have with anyone that is referencing only one girl and using an all good or all bad result is that you either sound like you were asked to do it, or you sound like a whiner. I reviewed ten girls, some were really good, some were really bad, and some were in between. Either way it shouldn't seem like I was put up to it, or that I am whiny. Hopefully that was the result.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Why would information be something someone else shouldn't have? When you go to buy something in a store do you never see any opinions on the product or do you just buy it and hope for the best? I don't see why saying I like this for this reason or that reason, or I don't like this for this reason or that reason would be something that people should not be told. You told me that you didn't like what I had said when we spoke but you never really said why. And idk, maybe as a host you don't ever want anyone to divulge anything about if someone does a good session or a bad one. But I'm sorry hon, on this you really don't get to have a vote, because you do not pay for this, we do. Of course if I'm selling a product I would hope nobody writes a bad review. But as the consumer, I DEFINITELY want to know. I may not agree with what someone else says, but I still want the information because I am spending my own money. When you become the person spending the money you can then decide to say or not say whatever you like.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
If he does not want to do a review of someone that is perfectly fine. It's not a requirement, but just as well there is NOTHING wrong with someone that does. Furthermore, you should not even be reading those reviews to begin with as they are posted in the viewer only forum. There is a reason that it says viewers only, it isn't intended for you. It is not your business. INYF has a right to an opinion on this matter, you however do not. He is a member, you are not.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
And one more thing, I never said anything about people needing to accept my truth. Anything offered was nothing more than an opinion, which is my right to share.
RE: Ok enough is enough,.... Pls everyone....
Please everyone, don't fight, There has been enough anger thrown around in these forums to last till hell freezes over....
All I am going to ask is that:
1. If you have a problem with a host tell her what she did, if she cares she will make the effort to change it and not do it to someone else.
2. Make sure that what you post is accurate, read all that a person writes, (be it in forums, or a hosts text, or in video) don't just pick out parts and then throw them around, because that can and do cause a lot of problems that can be avoided.
3. If a host or a member says something, before jumping on them, and writing out of spite ask them, to be sure that you what you read is what they meant.
4. Yes we all get angry, and tempted to write out of spite, and when one writes out of spite, then the true facts are distorted and not even seen. let alone known, and that just causes others to add to it not even realizing what has happened.
5. Please remember there are so many different nationalities on here, that it is easy to misunderstand what is said, especially if the mother language is not English...and that goes for both hosts and members...We can not have fun if we do not communicate in ways that each of us understands.
We all here for our own reasons, members are here for different desires. one members desire one day may not be the same the next day. So please don't get upset or angry when a host says what brings you here. we are not mind readers and no we do not know what your request is because there are so many different ones. So please just tell us. so we can say yes or no or recommend a different area of the site that caters to what your desire is.
Good night everyone. hugggggggggggggggggggg
All I am going to ask is that:
1. If you have a problem with a host tell her what she did, if she cares she will make the effort to change it and not do it to someone else.
2. Make sure that what you post is accurate, read all that a person writes, (be it in forums, or a hosts text, or in video) don't just pick out parts and then throw them around, because that can and do cause a lot of problems that can be avoided.
3. If a host or a member says something, before jumping on them, and writing out of spite ask them, to be sure that you what you read is what they meant.
4. Yes we all get angry, and tempted to write out of spite, and when one writes out of spite, then the true facts are distorted and not even seen. let alone known, and that just causes others to add to it not even realizing what has happened.
5. Please remember there are so many different nationalities on here, that it is easy to misunderstand what is said, especially if the mother language is not English...and that goes for both hosts and members...We can not have fun if we do not communicate in ways that each of us understands.
We all here for our own reasons, members are here for different desires. one members desire one day may not be the same the next day. So please don't get upset or angry when a host says what brings you here. we are not mind readers and no we do not know what your request is because there are so many different ones. So please just tell us. so we can say yes or no or recommend a different area of the site that caters to what your desire is.
Good night everyone. hugggggggggggggggggggg
RE: Ok enough is enough,
First and foremost Ashley is very honest. I only had one pvt but it was a very pleasant chat. I am also very honest. And I said as politely as I could that I respected her very much and thought she was an outstanding woman, but in my opinion, the cam business is better suited for women 18 to 30. I thanked her for her time and rated her 5 stars.
Again in my opinion, I think her post here is response to the thread in the Viewer Forum was not the right thing to do. Why? Because expanding on this subject only gives credence to the moron that posted it. No host has ever been trashed as much as Monicababe and I have never seen her post in the General Forum to protest against any thread. In my opinion, I think she has the thick skin needed to be a cam girl. And not everyone can be a cam girl.
And as classy and as nice a lady as Ashley is, maybe there are better choices for her than being a cam girl.
Again in my opinion, I think her post here is response to the thread in the Viewer Forum was not the right thing to do. Why? Because expanding on this subject only gives credence to the moron that posted it. No host has ever been trashed as much as Monicababe and I have never seen her post in the General Forum to protest against any thread. In my opinion, I think she has the thick skin needed to be a cam girl. And not everyone can be a cam girl.
And as classy and as nice a lady as Ashley is, maybe there are better choices for her than being a cam girl.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
It doesn't matter how good she looks for her age. The average 18 - 30 year old looks much better and much fresher. Men are 100% visual. That is not an opinion, it has been proven time and again in clinical studies.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
I know several hosts here that are over 30 that still look good, and a lot of the ones that say they are under 30, actually are over 30, lol. Yes, the average person looks better when they are younger, but I wouldn't put some artificial age limit on anything. And some of the older hosts are willing to do more kinky type of things and might be better suited for members into those type of things.
Bottom line: if I think she's hot, I will be willing to visit her regardless of age (as long as she is at least 18, lol). And it also can get annoying trying to hold a conversation with some of the 18 to 22 year olds, not that conversation is my first priority, but I still like being able to chat sometimes.
Bottom line: if I think she's hot, I will be willing to visit her regardless of age (as long as she is at least 18, lol). And it also can get annoying trying to hold a conversation with some of the 18 to 22 year olds, not that conversation is my first priority, but I still like being able to chat sometimes.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
I was in an open session with Ashley and experienced first hand a sample of what she has been trying to express here. A viewer entered. she politely advised him she was busy with someone already. Unfortunately that was not good enough for this viewer, as he proceeded expressing his anger.
Not only was he typing for all to read but he was also using his sound and shouting at her. He called her every name in the book as well as names I have not heard any man call a female he went on and on about the post and the comments attached to it.
She started to calmly try and explain to him but he cut her off sharply and continued on with his rantings. It was nothing to do with a show as he made it clear he had not been in before.
No host nor anyone for that matter should ever have to endure what she did in that session all because of part of a conversation that was misinterpreted. I was soo angry I wanted to step in but she said no it would only add fuel to the fire.
Now some would have thrown their hands up and ran away, some would have gave him his own medicine back, but instead she let him finish and leave, counted to 10, smiled and continued on with our session. So yes I very much understand why she posted.
To all hosts...I admire what you put up with from members who have no clue how to show a little respect. Keep up the good work.
Not only was he typing for all to read but he was also using his sound and shouting at her. He called her every name in the book as well as names I have not heard any man call a female he went on and on about the post and the comments attached to it.
She started to calmly try and explain to him but he cut her off sharply and continued on with his rantings. It was nothing to do with a show as he made it clear he had not been in before.
No host nor anyone for that matter should ever have to endure what she did in that session all because of part of a conversation that was misinterpreted. I was soo angry I wanted to step in but she said no it would only add fuel to the fire.
Now some would have thrown their hands up and ran away, some would have gave him his own medicine back, but instead she let him finish and leave, counted to 10, smiled and continued on with our session. So yes I very much understand why she posted.
To all hosts...I admire what you put up with from members who have no clue how to show a little respect. Keep up the good work.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Seen her the other night, and she was the perfect host and answered every question i had. And enjoyed her company very much. ty dear.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Have seen her a few times, and for the most part the sessions, were good, and yes I have caught her in a bad day, when guy's come in open session and start in on her.. For most part she handles the situation better than most would. As for the honest part, she has been most of the time with me, few instances where she was not, but was to my benefit. No one is honest al the time. Bottom line, give her credit for writing on here knowing all comments good or bad would be coming her way. Over all she is not perfect, but no host is. But I will continue to see her, cause in the end it is an enjoyable time.
RE: Ok enough is enough,......I just wanted to say ...
Thank you to everyone, I know what I did was out of the norm and yes if there had been another of dealing with the misinterpretation of one part of the post, I would have done it.
The rest of the post did get me to step back and wonder if maybe I had been carrying too much negative without realizing it, which all of us do at times when it comes to work and life in general.
I know that I upset some for even responding to a post in viewer, and some of you made that very clear and I expected that. But, at the same time looking threw this thread, you all took the time to actually read it, understand it and be supportive with your responses, and for that I thank you very much.
If I promise to try to be good, may I come out of the corner now? lool
The rest of the post did get me to step back and wonder if maybe I had been carrying too much negative without realizing it, which all of us do at times when it comes to work and life in general.
I know that I upset some for even responding to a post in viewer, and some of you made that very clear and I expected that. But, at the same time looking threw this thread, you all took the time to actually read it, understand it and be supportive with your responses, and for that I thank you very much.
If I promise to try to be good, may I come out of the corner now? lool
a request
hey all chat hosts. you dont have to do this request but i would appreciate it if you do.
if you do not mind i would appreciate if you can have a photo on your profile page that is close to what you look like that day, hair style etc. maybe even a photo you took just that day would be nice. for instance, if i see a photo of you with long dark curly hair, and i go into your room and it is blond and cut short, it is kind of a shock.
when i see your photo on the profile that is what draws me in. it is what starts to get me excited. when i go into your room and discover that you have drastically changed your look it is like throwing ice water on me.
so it is a request, you can ignore it if you like. but i would really appreciate if your profile photo is either taken for that session, or taken on a day when you looked a similar style. up to you.
if you do not mind i would appreciate if you can have a photo on your profile page that is close to what you look like that day, hair style etc. maybe even a photo you took just that day would be nice. for instance, if i see a photo of you with long dark curly hair, and i go into your room and it is blond and cut short, it is kind of a shock.
when i see your photo on the profile that is what draws me in. it is what starts to get me excited. when i go into your room and discover that you have drastically changed your look it is like throwing ice water on me.
so it is a request, you can ignore it if you like. but i would really appreciate if your profile photo is either taken for that session, or taken on a day when you looked a similar style. up to you.
RE: a request
I think that is totally ignoring what the member is asking. His request was reasonable....Look like a resemblance to you photo that you display.
Maybe he doesn't care what your personality is if you don't look like the photo (especially hair color) that you lured him into your room. How deceptive is that? How can he even trust you if you start out with deception?
His post and request is very simple and reasonable unless you are a deceptive host trying to lure guys into your room when you don't even resemble your pic. Obviously a profile picture makes a difference is why you wouldn't put your worst pic up. Don't dog him!
Maybe he doesn't care what your personality is if you don't look like the photo (especially hair color) that you lured him into your room. How deceptive is that? How can he even trust you if you start out with deception?
His post and request is very simple and reasonable unless you are a deceptive host trying to lure guys into your room when you don't even resemble your pic. Obviously a profile picture makes a difference is why you wouldn't put your worst pic up. Don't dog him!
RE: a request
I never expect toys in Glam. Hell I don't expect anything in Glam. Most profiles in Glam have something like have no expectations and you can never be disappointed. I'm not complaining, I'm just being honest.
RE: a request
Write your own request post instead of going into attack for his simple request. I don't believe how quickly some hosts are to attack the very ones that pay your bills....amazing!!
RE: a request
I always do - to save us the trouble of coming in and asking - what do you wear today?!
RE: a request
I like hosts who have lots of pictures and keep them current. Some hosts update almost on a daily basis...that is good business in my opinion. Then there are the hosts who have one picture and it is of their feet or finger nails...seriously?
it's easy
if the host's most recent archive pics are 3 years old, most times i wont even bother - it probably means she is lazy or has something to hide. if i enter a room and she looks nothing like the pics, or is a different girl, or has put on 10 kilos, or - most of all - she is now 7 months pregnant, i stay my one minute, don't say anything, then leave and give one star. it's false advertising and i won't stand for it...
RE: a request
If doing pics every day is too much for you, then at least take a picture of yourself when there is a drastic change in your appearance, such as hair color, or hair length, curly or straight hair, or if u all of a sudden grow a third eye, or if you are wearing a wig for a change in your appearance.
RE: a request
Seriously? You really just said taking a picture is too much work? Do you have to process film or something? Because I thought all you had to do was click the mouse button?
Not trying to be a dick but you really would have been better off not speaking there. Maybe next time you go to McDonalds the drive thru person will ask you to come inside because they are tired.
All the guy is suggesting is that you give the viewers an opportunity to see what you look like TODAY. There are countless times where you see a girl, who has outstanding outfits in her pics, looks perfect in them and the viewer says "i want to see THAT girl" then you go in and the girl is wearing something hideous, hasn't put any makeup on and pretty much doesn't look at all like she looks in the pics. That is quite often going to end up with the viewer leaving right away, and possibly you getting a bad rating. That leaves both of you angry, all because it was too difficult to click the mouse and take the picture.
Not trying to be a dick but you really would have been better off not speaking there. Maybe next time you go to McDonalds the drive thru person will ask you to come inside because they are tired.
All the guy is suggesting is that you give the viewers an opportunity to see what you look like TODAY. There are countless times where you see a girl, who has outstanding outfits in her pics, looks perfect in them and the viewer says "i want to see THAT girl" then you go in and the girl is wearing something hideous, hasn't put any makeup on and pretty much doesn't look at all like she looks in the pics. That is quite often going to end up with the viewer leaving right away, and possibly you getting a bad rating. That leaves both of you angry, all because it was too difficult to click the mouse and take the picture.
RE: a request
Yeah if that is the case I would suggest a career change then. Because if these small things are too tedious, then it's very unlikely that you care enough about your viewer to offer them a good session. Good chathosts take pride in their work. I guess you can do this job only worrying about the money you are making on each individual session but you are missing the point. Pics are what causes a viewer to visit your session, and good sessions are what causes a viewer to come back. Repeat business is where the money is really at. And you can't consistently get repeat business by being half assed at this job. Trust me, there are other girls out there that are willing to give the effort that you aren't giving. But hey who cares right?
RE: a request
I totally agree with you and am shocked at the stories I hear about how common it is for a guy to go into a room and the profile pic does not look a thing like her. Sad that hosts or studio bosses are either deceptive by putting a pic up of a host that is not the host in the room or the host doesn't want to bother to put the energy she did for that one photo.
I am also disgusted with the hosts here defending hosts actions or trying to attack without cause.
This is a fricken job and some are not mature or ambitious enough to do their job well. Then they complain about the one second guys and the low rating they left them....lol.
I am also disgusted with the hosts here defending hosts actions or trying to attack without cause.
This is a fricken job and some are not mature or ambitious enough to do their job well. Then they complain about the one second guys and the low rating they left them....lol.
RE: a request
that is sort of what i was trying to get at too. i understand hosts being upset about '1 minute guys'. but for me the reason i am a 1 minute guy often is because i enter, see the host looks much different, and decide to leave. i dont mind and i enjoy pics that are in the archives. but i would truly appreciate if the photo on the profile page was from the current session. this way i am not so surprised when i enter. and like i said before it is only a request, so each host do as you will. but perhaps this post sheds some light on why you have so many guys who enter and leave right away.
RE: a request
You are completely right and there is nothing wrong with your request, having even one pic each day you are online helps a member to see what you are wearing that day, if it is an outfit he likes then he may come see you, but if not then you loose out. unless you are a host who has the regular viewers you want and you do not want any others. then ok ....
What would you like for Christmas?
Its about time we started the list. Ladies and gentle please do not vere from the topic and keep it nice and neat. So i will start!
I need some new console (xbox and PS3) games for kids? Any suggestions
I need some new console (xbox and PS3) games for kids? Any suggestions
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I would like Bradley Cooper for Xmas, or Friends TV show complete series on DVD that goes together with the huge poster or a mug, or whatever they put to the box as well :)
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
i got the whole friend series on dvd and have not watched it in years , its all yours .
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
OMG you like Bradley Cooper. geesh....Its over between us. What a wimp.
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
Ure the first person i met who actually doesnt like him!
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I want to be with someone special for me on that day :)
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I want to be 20 years younger. No make that 30 years younger.
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I don't want anything for myself, though receiving something would be nice.
But Christmas is not really about "getting" it is about "giving"
What I want is what Christmas wants - peace and goodwill for people
But Christmas is not really about "getting" it is about "giving"
What I want is what Christmas wants - peace and goodwill for people
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I would like one of my favorite hosts to visit me for the holidays....parties, dining, gifts and then... a few days of 121...wink wink...nudge nudge...
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I want Tinychic and Monikababe for christmas , is that too much to ask :P
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
Haha Bradley Cooper, is that u?? Oh well, that would be way too much to ask, but after all, xmas time is time for miracles! So who knows?)
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
Oh, God..Ok im changing my mind, now that is my xmas wish too :(
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
You forgot and to visit all hosts to satisfy that tool...hehe
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
It is very simple, I do not want nor need any bought gifts or anything material, all I want for Christmas is for my love to be home so I can hold him, tell him how much I love him and have missed him, and not let a day or moment go by that he does not know or feel how much he is appreciated and loved, and to give him all the love he deserves...
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I want that Christmas present (but from someone else) :P
Reflections
Just setting here in front of the fire on a cold rainy night and I got to thinking ..... just like Andy Rooney used to on 60 Minutes. In thid world of political correctness where you can't compliment an attractive lady on her figure because it's " Sexual Harrassment " how should we be viewing sites such as this? Are companies like CC to be called Pimps - after all the definition of a Pimp is a person who derives income from women and men selling themselves.
Are chat hosts to be labled Prostitutes - for the definition of a Prostitute is a person who sells their body for money. Are members really not perverts but Johns - for the definition of a John is a person who pays for sex. Just thinking in this politically correct world. Good Noight and God Bless .
Are chat hosts to be labled Prostitutes - for the definition of a Prostitute is a person who sells their body for money. Are members really not perverts but Johns - for the definition of a John is a person who pays for sex. Just thinking in this politically correct world. Good Noight and God Bless .
RE: Reflections
we dont sell our bodies here, just a picture of a body (thats different). it was told already many times, chat-hosts are more strip-teasers than prostitutes by any definition. :P
RE: Reflections
and again stop having so unfair bad images of prostitutes and escorts!
why do you desperately want to make a difference between selling yourself in here as a camgirl or out there as one of my escorts? what is so bad being a little cheap and slutty in your very professional ways? not every girl can overcome herself and do that! why is this differentiation bugging you camgirls so much? for many people there is no difference how you sell yourself to guys. if you want to work here on this great site you should accept the field you are working in.
for me there is no difference. and why should there be? it is a job in the sex business on a sex site. it is sexual satisfaction vs money. and as long as all are satisfied i still wonder why the big fuzz. it does not make all of you bad persons, just special. we guys need your services since in the real world it is still forbidden to walk up to a stranger cute face and start jerking off to her while she has to watch. but you are all cool to be used and serving what a paying stranger tells you to do. that is what makes you professionals in here all so great and successful!
so stop thinking too much about that and we all start enjoying this great site! i just did not like the tone against my escorts. we guys need what you professionals do for us and we gladly share a bit of our hard earned money with you wonderful wonderful openhearted girls in a respectful professional way!
j
why do you desperately want to make a difference between selling yourself in here as a camgirl or out there as one of my escorts? what is so bad being a little cheap and slutty in your very professional ways? not every girl can overcome herself and do that! why is this differentiation bugging you camgirls so much? for many people there is no difference how you sell yourself to guys. if you want to work here on this great site you should accept the field you are working in.
for me there is no difference. and why should there be? it is a job in the sex business on a sex site. it is sexual satisfaction vs money. and as long as all are satisfied i still wonder why the big fuzz. it does not make all of you bad persons, just special. we guys need your services since in the real world it is still forbidden to walk up to a stranger cute face and start jerking off to her while she has to watch. but you are all cool to be used and serving what a paying stranger tells you to do. that is what makes you professionals in here all so great and successful!
so stop thinking too much about that and we all start enjoying this great site! i just did not like the tone against my escorts. we guys need what you professionals do for us and we gladly share a bit of our hard earned money with you wonderful wonderful openhearted girls in a respectful professional way!
j
RE: Reflections
Where does her post indicate that she has a bad attitude to prostitutes and escorts. A prostitute or escort sells direct access to her body and provides the sexual satisfaction to the punter herself. A chathost (or porn star or stripper) sells her image the stimulation for the viewer to satisfy himself. In your limited view of the world it may all be the same but if you actually discussed it with some prostitutes you would realise there is a big difference. I am not sying that prostitutes are worse people than chathosts, just that their work is different. In the same way there is a big difference between stripping in front of a camera by yourself in a room and stripping on a stage in front of a crowd of cheering (or sometimes jeering) men.
RE: Reflections
If you so like call cam-girls as prostitutes, it's you problem. But I should tell you that if you meet some cam-girls in real world you have no any chances to get laid with them, even for money. :P Keep dreaming though.
RE: Reflections
Actually it is how your mind has accepted what you have chosen to participate in. If you asked a girl or woman that would never consider this as a decent job they would certainly tell you that they are one in the same because you have no modesty and you are desperate to do this so to the world outside of this you could be considered equal to what was written.
I think it's interesting how our minds will defend our own actions and yet judge others..... To many you are just the same as your argument against....
I think it's interesting how our minds will defend our own actions and yet judge others..... To many you are just the same as your argument against....
RE: Reflections
In each of our lives, aren't we all a little bit prostitute, a little bit pimp, a little bit john?
I like to thinks so.
Kisses
I like to thinks so.
Kisses
RE: Reflections
as they say in the real world,,,outside of the porn sites-chat sites-people are real, whatever they do or become in life doesn't have to be a reflection, just look in the mirror, step back and ask yourself do I really care what people think- just relax, stay calm and nothing will change that reflection
RE: Reflections
I couldn't even read your entire post because I started choking when you compared working here to Hooters and VS. I don't see them showing bare breasted ever....so stop right there with your trying to convince others of your model image.....it certainly is not the same!
RE: Reflections
It's certainly a lot closer to Hooters and VS than it is to prostitution. But if you'd stopped choking long enough you may have seen that what she was actually saying is, that by the opening poster's reasoning, they were the same thing. In fact she then goes on to say that they are indeed different.
RE: Reflections
Hmm...maybe she never show off her bare breast, how can you know it for sure? Many non-nude hosts at CC.
Then again, this kind of activity (I mean hosting) is more than to show off yourself and encourage to fantasies so its really close to modelling lingerie (especially in softcore cats) than prostitution, as no real sex involved here.
Then again, this kind of activity (I mean hosting) is more than to show off yourself and encourage to fantasies so its really close to modelling lingerie (especially in softcore cats) than prostitution, as no real sex involved here.
RE: Reflections
"Many non-nude hosts at CC. "
No truer words have ever been spoken. Thank you.
No truer words have ever been spoken. Thank you.
RE: Reflections
You sell your time with no clothes on teasing a male for money while he is looking forward to cumming from excitement. There is a notable difference from just selling your time or professional expertise to stimulating the opposite sex for money.
RE: Reflections
She said she is in NON-ADULT category, so go and read rules of that category, before posting here about no clothes on.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
if you had me in your video,i'm guessing you would hope,pray probably even beg,that it was only 20 second minimum :--)
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
I understand your frustration, but there really is no perfect system. And if anything, the current system inflates the ratings.
The idea of having just one account per member is a good one for ratings. CC claims that a member cannot vote with multiple accounts but I have questions if that is true. I have heard too many hosts tell me things like they didn't have any video for a few days but their rating changed, for example, to believe that there aren't many technical difficulties with the rating system. The problem is that it could be a little difficult for CC to enforce a one account per user rule although they could greatly reduce the amount of accounts members have. And if a member could have just one account, it would make it easier for hosts to block members.
But the 10 minute idea, wth all due respect, is ridiculous. I have had plenty of hosts do things such as not be on cam for more than a minute, ignore me during the first minute, be rude in that first minute, et cetera. I am sure that you have had guys come into your video and act in a rude way in the first 10 seconds. Well, a few hosts do the same. Why shouldn't they get 1 star in those cases? But I would make it that the member must stay one complete minute instead of his ability to stay 10 seconds before he can vote to at least give the host a chance to win him over. He is billed for the first minute even if he stays less, but he can vote right away. And I probably wouldn't mind if the member had to stay at least 2 full minutes before voting to be a bit more fair to the host. But more than that is unfair to the member. I've had plenty of problems in the first one or two minutes for me to have to wait 10 minutes before I give 1 star.
Despite your worries about the rating system, however, go through the ratings of hosts online at any given moment and you will see they are generally very high. Most hosts have at least 4 stars or more and a very large percentage have 4,5 or 5 stars. In my view, the ratings are way too high and if a host cannot get a high rating, then she is not doing a good job. I hear friends complain all the time about one minute guys rating them badly but at the end of the day, they still have 4,5 or 5 stars so either CC is handling the rating system well in terms of protecting hosts from one minute voters or the hosts with lower ratings simply are bad hosts.
CC will not change the rating system because of this. They like having hosts have lots of stars because it makes the site look better. A guy doesn't want to see a bunch of hosts with 1, 2 or 3 stars. He wants to think that he is on a site many hosts are really good. So CC likes the site this way. They let a host have just a few regulars that can vote two times each, give her 5 stars and bam!!! She's got 4,5 or 5 stars! That is all it takes, and a host that can't get a high rating like that really needs to ask herself if it is the one minute voter or if she is just not that good at what she does. Let members vote one time each with just one account and expand the votes from 10 to say 25 and I bet ratings would drop real fast since regulars wouldn't have as much of an impact, but it would be a lot more accurate. Neither you nor CC wants this, but I as a member sure do.
With all due respect to any host that does not like her rating, based on what I have seen her over the years, it is a lot more likely the host's fault than the member's fault if the rating is not a good one. Your real problem is that so many hosts have 4,5 and 5 stars because of rating inflation that anything less than that puts you 1/2 way down the page and guys never get to you. That would seem to indicate guys are being too generous a lot more often than they are being one minute voters so again, that seems to say to me that a host with a lower rating just isn't all that good at what she does, at least compared to other hosts here.
And another thing, you can always open a new account for free if your rating is too low. Some hosts do this. Wouldn't it be fair to limit you not just to two accounts online at the same time, but two accounts period? Unless you leave a studio, why should a host be able to open several accounts and just use the one or two with the highest stars, for example? If we are going to make changes here, let's make sure they are fair to everyone.
The idea of having just one account per member is a good one for ratings. CC claims that a member cannot vote with multiple accounts but I have questions if that is true. I have heard too many hosts tell me things like they didn't have any video for a few days but their rating changed, for example, to believe that there aren't many technical difficulties with the rating system. The problem is that it could be a little difficult for CC to enforce a one account per user rule although they could greatly reduce the amount of accounts members have. And if a member could have just one account, it would make it easier for hosts to block members.
But the 10 minute idea, wth all due respect, is ridiculous. I have had plenty of hosts do things such as not be on cam for more than a minute, ignore me during the first minute, be rude in that first minute, et cetera. I am sure that you have had guys come into your video and act in a rude way in the first 10 seconds. Well, a few hosts do the same. Why shouldn't they get 1 star in those cases? But I would make it that the member must stay one complete minute instead of his ability to stay 10 seconds before he can vote to at least give the host a chance to win him over. He is billed for the first minute even if he stays less, but he can vote right away. And I probably wouldn't mind if the member had to stay at least 2 full minutes before voting to be a bit more fair to the host. But more than that is unfair to the member. I've had plenty of problems in the first one or two minutes for me to have to wait 10 minutes before I give 1 star.
Despite your worries about the rating system, however, go through the ratings of hosts online at any given moment and you will see they are generally very high. Most hosts have at least 4 stars or more and a very large percentage have 4,5 or 5 stars. In my view, the ratings are way too high and if a host cannot get a high rating, then she is not doing a good job. I hear friends complain all the time about one minute guys rating them badly but at the end of the day, they still have 4,5 or 5 stars so either CC is handling the rating system well in terms of protecting hosts from one minute voters or the hosts with lower ratings simply are bad hosts.
CC will not change the rating system because of this. They like having hosts have lots of stars because it makes the site look better. A guy doesn't want to see a bunch of hosts with 1, 2 or 3 stars. He wants to think that he is on a site many hosts are really good. So CC likes the site this way. They let a host have just a few regulars that can vote two times each, give her 5 stars and bam!!! She's got 4,5 or 5 stars! That is all it takes, and a host that can't get a high rating like that really needs to ask herself if it is the one minute voter or if she is just not that good at what she does. Let members vote one time each with just one account and expand the votes from 10 to say 25 and I bet ratings would drop real fast since regulars wouldn't have as much of an impact, but it would be a lot more accurate. Neither you nor CC wants this, but I as a member sure do.
With all due respect to any host that does not like her rating, based on what I have seen her over the years, it is a lot more likely the host's fault than the member's fault if the rating is not a good one. Your real problem is that so many hosts have 4,5 and 5 stars because of rating inflation that anything less than that puts you 1/2 way down the page and guys never get to you. That would seem to indicate guys are being too generous a lot more often than they are being one minute voters so again, that seems to say to me that a host with a lower rating just isn't all that good at what she does, at least compared to other hosts here.
And another thing, you can always open a new account for free if your rating is too low. Some hosts do this. Wouldn't it be fair to limit you not just to two accounts online at the same time, but two accounts period? Unless you leave a studio, why should a host be able to open several accounts and just use the one or two with the highest stars, for example? If we are going to make changes here, let's make sure they are fair to everyone.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
succinct it wasn't,but well thought out,well constructed & yes well explained.even those who disagree,can't begrudge you your opinion because it's considered & explained from your perspective.kudos :--)
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
And you being the quintessential host apologist of course disagrees with a member's very fair analysis of this topic.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
And you just want to argue... Magnanimous is simply not a word in your vocabulary.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
lma & thank you,you just proved that you & those of your ilk,can't see the forest for the trees.every post you make in regards to myself is tainted by your biased,preordained prejudices :--)
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
I think the ratings should be time weighted averages, the longer you are in video the more your rating counts. A one hour 5 star rating should account for more than a 1 minute 1 star rating, just as a 1 hour 1 star rating should count for more than a 1 minute 5 star rating.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
I've considered that but I think it gives an advantage to lower priced hosts since guys may stay longer. One of my favorite hosts charges $0.60/minute and I will stay in her room for an hour or more at times. If the price is a lot higher, I certainly am not going to want to stay nearly as long or at least I am going to think twice about it.
Also, your suggestion would probably lead to additional star inflation. A one star situation usually arises within the first few minutes. I can think of exceptions of course such as when a host promises a show after chatting awhile but never strips or stalls so long that the member cannot take it any more, but usually, it probably will happen sooner than later. But the 5 star situation is most likely to occur from a longer chat. Therefore, you will automatically be overweighting the higher ratings. If the host is generally doing a good job, there is no need to do this. Just look how high the ratings are already.
If you want a more accurate, more fair system, expanding the pool from 10 to say 25 votes ( I don't think I'd go much higher than that), combined with a 2 minute minimum, one vote per member policy would work better. Plus, I wouldn't let hosts escape bad ratings with new accounts. I would let them open two accounts, and if they wanted a new one since they wanted to change their name, I would have them close an existing account and transfer those ratings to the new account. Or I would just update the software so they could change their names. This system would be much more fair and accurate and would reduce the effect of the guys that one star because they don't understand or reject the rules about soft core, are simply being vindictive or are trying to hurt one host to help another one because it would expand the sample size from 10 to 25. And it would also reduce the effect of money slaves, regulars, et cetera and give a more reflective picture of a typical session with a host.
I think some hosts just need to accept that they are not as good as other hosts here and that it isn't a bunch of idiots giving them one star that are the problem. Just look at how high the ratings are. How much of an impact can these one starring idiots really be having? And, I cannot speak for everyone, but I know that if I am paying $1,00/minute, I am going to be a lot less demanding in terms of my expectations than if I am paying $2,00/minute so if a host has lower stars, lowering her price might not just get her more video, it may actually end up increasing her rating because guys that are paying less are not necessarily expecting quite as much. Then, she can slowly begin to raise her price again and hopefully do a better job that will allow her to maintain this higher rating in the future.
Also, your suggestion would probably lead to additional star inflation. A one star situation usually arises within the first few minutes. I can think of exceptions of course such as when a host promises a show after chatting awhile but never strips or stalls so long that the member cannot take it any more, but usually, it probably will happen sooner than later. But the 5 star situation is most likely to occur from a longer chat. Therefore, you will automatically be overweighting the higher ratings. If the host is generally doing a good job, there is no need to do this. Just look how high the ratings are already.
If you want a more accurate, more fair system, expanding the pool from 10 to say 25 votes ( I don't think I'd go much higher than that), combined with a 2 minute minimum, one vote per member policy would work better. Plus, I wouldn't let hosts escape bad ratings with new accounts. I would let them open two accounts, and if they wanted a new one since they wanted to change their name, I would have them close an existing account and transfer those ratings to the new account. Or I would just update the software so they could change their names. This system would be much more fair and accurate and would reduce the effect of the guys that one star because they don't understand or reject the rules about soft core, are simply being vindictive or are trying to hurt one host to help another one because it would expand the sample size from 10 to 25. And it would also reduce the effect of money slaves, regulars, et cetera and give a more reflective picture of a typical session with a host.
I think some hosts just need to accept that they are not as good as other hosts here and that it isn't a bunch of idiots giving them one star that are the problem. Just look at how high the ratings are. How much of an impact can these one starring idiots really be having? And, I cannot speak for everyone, but I know that if I am paying $1,00/minute, I am going to be a lot less demanding in terms of my expectations than if I am paying $2,00/minute so if a host has lower stars, lowering her price might not just get her more video, it may actually end up increasing her rating because guys that are paying less are not necessarily expecting quite as much. Then, she can slowly begin to raise her price again and hopefully do a better job that will allow her to maintain this higher rating in the future.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
0.60c per min means 18$ per hour for a host in the best case. would u like to entertain unknown people for that money? I guess no.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
What does that have to do with anything? I said a host that I like has that price so I stay a lot longer and that would give her an advantage if ratings were based on amount of time in video. It is the same effect as if a host lowered her price for a few hours so all her regulars can come vote and then raised it later.
The only other thing that I said regarding price is that it is possible that a host could improve her rating by lowering her price since guys might expect less if they are paying less similar to when you pay more for a car, you expect it to be a better car and might be more demanding when you rate that car. I could be wrong about this idea since the lower price might attract more idiots, but generally, I think what a person pays has some relationship to what he expects to receive so a lower price could help a host boost her rating. But I never said everyone should make their price $0.60 or that prices in general were too high or anything like that. Plus, I even said the host could put her price higher after she got some higher ratings. It would just be a temporary price reduction so guys might not be as critical because they weren't paying as much.
I will also note this. I see a lot of 4 star or lower hosts with hot pics and with prices at $2,00 or more. When I see the first 30 hosts in a category with 4,5 and 5 stars, I always wonder why these other hosts have lower ratings. Are the pics real? Is she on too many sites? Does she stall? Is she doing something else wrong? The bottom line is that it raises a question in my mind since it seems so easy to get 4,5 or 5 stars so before I decide to pay this higher price, I really think things through and decide if I want to take a chance. But at say, $1.50, there is a very good chance I will come take a look, and from there, the host has her chance to earn a good rating.
Sadly, however, despite all of the complaints about ratings, more often than not, I am disappointed by hosts below 4,5 stars, and I don't think it is just a bunch of idiots giving them 1 star that gave them the lower rating. I think usually the got it because other hosts are simply better.
I know some guys are very happy with 4 star or lower hosts. All I know is that every host I enjoy seeing on a regular basis is 4,5 or 5 stars. They are in various categories and at various prices, usually up to $2.00. And I stay at least 20 to 30 minutes most of the time, and sometimes well over an hour, even if closer to the $2.00 range. But there is not a single host on this site that I see on a regular basis that is below 4,5 stars. I've had decent sessions with some of them, but in terms of repeat business, while I might go back, I don't go back on any type of regular basis. The 4,5 and 5 star hosts are not always good in my opinion, and the ones below 4,5 are not always bad, but generally, the higher the rating, the better the host so once again, I think hosts need to focus more on what they are doing and worry less about the occasional 1 star idiot. I've seen a 5 star host complain to me that she dropped to 4,5 a lot because of this, but I almost never hear a 4,5 star host having a problem of dropping to 4 stars. It is the top hosts that the idiots seem to attack, not the lower ranked ones, so if you are not in the top, it might have more to do with you than with the random idiot giving you a bad rating. And like I have said, these top hosts easily withstand such attacks because they have regulars to come vote 5 stars. Why? Because they are the better hosts and have such regulars. If you don't have enough regulars and feel you are being attacked by idiots, then maybe you need to do a better job to get these regulars.
The only other thing that I said regarding price is that it is possible that a host could improve her rating by lowering her price since guys might expect less if they are paying less similar to when you pay more for a car, you expect it to be a better car and might be more demanding when you rate that car. I could be wrong about this idea since the lower price might attract more idiots, but generally, I think what a person pays has some relationship to what he expects to receive so a lower price could help a host boost her rating. But I never said everyone should make their price $0.60 or that prices in general were too high or anything like that. Plus, I even said the host could put her price higher after she got some higher ratings. It would just be a temporary price reduction so guys might not be as critical because they weren't paying as much.
I will also note this. I see a lot of 4 star or lower hosts with hot pics and with prices at $2,00 or more. When I see the first 30 hosts in a category with 4,5 and 5 stars, I always wonder why these other hosts have lower ratings. Are the pics real? Is she on too many sites? Does she stall? Is she doing something else wrong? The bottom line is that it raises a question in my mind since it seems so easy to get 4,5 or 5 stars so before I decide to pay this higher price, I really think things through and decide if I want to take a chance. But at say, $1.50, there is a very good chance I will come take a look, and from there, the host has her chance to earn a good rating.
Sadly, however, despite all of the complaints about ratings, more often than not, I am disappointed by hosts below 4,5 stars, and I don't think it is just a bunch of idiots giving them 1 star that gave them the lower rating. I think usually the got it because other hosts are simply better.
I know some guys are very happy with 4 star or lower hosts. All I know is that every host I enjoy seeing on a regular basis is 4,5 or 5 stars. They are in various categories and at various prices, usually up to $2.00. And I stay at least 20 to 30 minutes most of the time, and sometimes well over an hour, even if closer to the $2.00 range. But there is not a single host on this site that I see on a regular basis that is below 4,5 stars. I've had decent sessions with some of them, but in terms of repeat business, while I might go back, I don't go back on any type of regular basis. The 4,5 and 5 star hosts are not always good in my opinion, and the ones below 4,5 are not always bad, but generally, the higher the rating, the better the host so once again, I think hosts need to focus more on what they are doing and worry less about the occasional 1 star idiot. I've seen a 5 star host complain to me that she dropped to 4,5 a lot because of this, but I almost never hear a 4,5 star host having a problem of dropping to 4 stars. It is the top hosts that the idiots seem to attack, not the lower ranked ones, so if you are not in the top, it might have more to do with you than with the random idiot giving you a bad rating. And like I have said, these top hosts easily withstand such attacks because they have regulars to come vote 5 stars. Why? Because they are the better hosts and have such regulars. If you don't have enough regulars and feel you are being attacked by idiots, then maybe you need to do a better job to get these regulars.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
I guess you just got a bad rating and unfortunately it lowered your rating score. That is lousy I agree and until CC changes the system of all ratings count accumulatively it will continue.
Some positive suggestions is block hosts and guests. Always look as good as your pictures posted and be friendly in chat. Could minimize the problems.
10 or 20 min before rating is ridiculous. At least 2 min would be nice and have all ratings count and not just the last 10.
Some positive suggestions is block hosts and guests. Always look as good as your pictures posted and be friendly in chat. Could minimize the problems.
10 or 20 min before rating is ridiculous. At least 2 min would be nice and have all ratings count and not just the last 10.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
if you're not sure what you put in there & it was a long post,it's the perfect response for here.most of us never know what we are saying & rant & rave like stoned hippies :--)
RE: to tisme
Before I type my posts, I go on a vision quest which includes putting on my tie dye shirt, getting high, and reciting ohmm ohmmm over and over. Then, once in video, I simply drop the "oh" from ohmmmm and say mmmm mmmm over and over.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Counting every rating is not a good idea in my view because it doesn't accurately reflect how a host is doing lately. Also, it would allow a long time host to treat a guy poorly and get away with it because she would know one poor rating wouldn't have any effect on her overall rating. Similarly, it would not allow a host that is just average because she was more shy when she first started out, had poor English, et cetera to overcome lower scores for a very long time as she got better at her job. I guess she could just open a new account, but I would have a policy that her rating would follow her anyway to prevent that type of attempt to get around a poor rating and limit the number of accounts she had.
This is why I think something around 25 with each member only being allowed to vote once would be a better way to go. It reduces the effect of a few poor votes and it also doesn't let just a few regulars artificially inflate a score. And it is still a fair reflection of how good a job a host is doing lately. Plus, it would encourage her to be more consistent in terms of doing a good job since a few regulars couldn't control the voting so much.
But despite all the complaints from hosts, I still think they should be happy with the current system. I think the ratings are way too high and members don't really get a lot of good information from them. Just a few loyal customers and they've got 4,5 or 5 stars. That is really all it takes. And on those days that a few idiots jump into video for one minute, a host can just say she is sad about her rating to a few "friends" without saying more so she is not violating any rules and we all know what will happen... The rating will be back to were it was the next day. And for those hosts that don't have a few loyal guys to fix the rating, once again, with all due respect, I think that you probably are not doing that good of a job and probably don't deserve a higher rating.
The only way I would adopt the idea of counting all votes would be to allow short reviews like another site does so at least I can see if the rating is still reflective of how the host is doing lately. I still prefer my idea even if the reviews were included, but at least such reviews would reduce my objections a bit. Even with reviews, I still see many long time "veteran" hosts that used to be good hosts and have 5 stars do really poor shows at that other site and generally won't go there. Take away their 2500 votes or more, lol, and reduce it to 25, and I bet the quality of the shows would increase at that other place.
This is why I think something around 25 with each member only being allowed to vote once would be a better way to go. It reduces the effect of a few poor votes and it also doesn't let just a few regulars artificially inflate a score. And it is still a fair reflection of how good a job a host is doing lately. Plus, it would encourage her to be more consistent in terms of doing a good job since a few regulars couldn't control the voting so much.
But despite all the complaints from hosts, I still think they should be happy with the current system. I think the ratings are way too high and members don't really get a lot of good information from them. Just a few loyal customers and they've got 4,5 or 5 stars. That is really all it takes. And on those days that a few idiots jump into video for one minute, a host can just say she is sad about her rating to a few "friends" without saying more so she is not violating any rules and we all know what will happen... The rating will be back to were it was the next day. And for those hosts that don't have a few loyal guys to fix the rating, once again, with all due respect, I think that you probably are not doing that good of a job and probably don't deserve a higher rating.
The only way I would adopt the idea of counting all votes would be to allow short reviews like another site does so at least I can see if the rating is still reflective of how the host is doing lately. I still prefer my idea even if the reviews were included, but at least such reviews would reduce my objections a bit. Even with reviews, I still see many long time "veteran" hosts that used to be good hosts and have 5 stars do really poor shows at that other site and generally won't go there. Take away their 2500 votes or more, lol, and reduce it to 25, and I bet the quality of the shows would increase at that other place.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Look, if you are getting slews of bad ratings from people that are not staying long there is a very good possibility that you are doing something wrong. I do not think there are very many viewers wanting to go into a room and leave a minute or two later upset. That is a waste of money. However, there are many hosts that do not appreciate the fact that we the viewer are the customers, we are paying for entertainment and deserve to be treated well. If i have to wait 5-10 mins of a session for the host to start doing whatever it is that I'm requesting then that is ridiculous. Now I'm not saying that if you don't say you are willing to strip that you should receive a bad score for not stripping (although lets be real, this is an adult website, it is a common sense expectation). But if you say you are willing to, then we should be able to start within a reasonable amount of time. And by reasonable I mean a few hi's, whats your name what did you want to see, and let's start. If you aren't willing to have this lengthy conversation with members that are in the free text chat, then you should not be expecting them to pay for the conversation in video. Also, like someone else said, take pictures that are accurate. If you use fake pictures, or pictures that are distorted or altered to make you look like something you are not, you are no helping yourself. You may get the viewer in for a brief moment but they are going to leave and you are going to get a bad rating.
Respect your CUSTOMERS and remember that a member that comes for 10 minutes 10 times is better than a member that comes for 30 mins once. If you treat your viewers well they will treat you well. It's a respect thing, and trust me when I say, the viewer usually comes up on the short side of this. I think that if you do these very simple things, you will have the rating that you hope for.
Respect your CUSTOMERS and remember that a member that comes for 10 minutes 10 times is better than a member that comes for 30 mins once. If you treat your viewers well they will treat you well. It's a respect thing, and trust me when I say, the viewer usually comes up on the short side of this. I think that if you do these very simple things, you will have the rating that you hope for.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Very well said! Funny how every host that gets a bad rating blames the member....hello but it could be a time for self reflection!!
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Men have a natural way of stopping the clock called ejaculation. Just like men roll over and fall asleep in real sex...once a god pops his cork he wants to leave the video and take a shower. That could happen in the first few minutes or...longer depending on his endurance, the hottness of the host and the size of his wallet. I for one like volume and variety...so....20 minutes wouldn't work for me.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Where do you get that information from?? I haven't seen that anywhere
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
if the minimum time required to rate a host was 20 minutes then certainly almost all ratings would be 5 stars, why would i stay in a vid for 20 minutes if i find out in the first 2 minutes that the host looks nothing like her pictures or she has promised in text chat to be naked right away but is not fulfilling that promise or any of a number of other reasons why i might think 1-2 stars was appropriate
so i am supposed to stay there for another 18 minutes to rate her? i don't think so
so i am supposed to stay there for another 18 minutes to rate her? i don't think so
RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
The first two profile names above are the most recent.
She's gorgeous, but it has been impossible to get more than just chat, no matter how patient, polite, and flattering.
And don't fall for the dance routine either. She'll make you leave the room and come back in private so that she can change into her dance outfit, but it covers *more* of her, not less. The dance itself takes forever, isn't as sexy as she thinks, and she doesn't read what you type while she's dancing. So once she starts, you're basically locked in for another ten minutes, unless you want to be rude and just leave.
She is, however, SO beautiful. So...if her new profile names are an indication that she has changed, and is now willing to get it on, please post here! I want to know!
She's gorgeous, but it has been impossible to get more than just chat, no matter how patient, polite, and flattering.
And don't fall for the dance routine either. She'll make you leave the room and come back in private so that she can change into her dance outfit, but it covers *more* of her, not less. The dance itself takes forever, isn't as sexy as she thinks, and she doesn't read what you type while she's dancing. So once she starts, you're basically locked in for another ten minutes, unless you want to be rude and just leave.
She is, however, SO beautiful. So...if her new profile names are an indication that she has changed, and is now willing to get it on, please post here! I want to know!
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
i agree with all you say truth teller. I saw the magic breasts once but it took a lot of time & money. She really is not comfortable showing in my opinion. This was when she was relatively new to cc.
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
I know RIGHT?
She is too such a temptation, because as truth tellr say, she is "SO gorgeous."
I want to add one thing: how much $$$ does she think one willing to spend just to hear her talk adn talk about her acting career? I am russian and i never seen her on TV or stage, but she tells lies that she is.
She is too such a temptation, because as truth tellr say, she is "SO gorgeous."
I want to add one thing: how much $$$ does she think one willing to spend just to hear her talk adn talk about her acting career? I am russian and i never seen her on TV or stage, but she tells lies that she is.
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
huge cans, but very few pics of her showing below the waist. is she a bit thick down there?
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
As far as I know, she's not especially thick down there. See WebActress4u, 26, March, 2010. There are two pics showing her full - length.
Just *look* at that face and those beautiful breasts.
If only she was genuinely turned on by being a hostess on this site, as some of the more willing / hornier hostesses are. She could rule this site. I'd default on every credit card spanking it with her!
Just *look* at that face and those beautiful breasts.
If only she was genuinely turned on by being a hostess on this site, as some of the more willing / hornier hostesses are. She could rule this site. I'd default on every credit card spanking it with her!
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
dear "another." Being an American, I could never tell if she was telling the truth about her acting career.
You are right about one thing; she does talk about it a lot. It would be really sad if that is all lies!
You are right about one thing; she does talk about it a lot. It would be really sad if that is all lies!
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
Why is this not in the viewer's forum?
Are you looking for hosts' opinions too? lol
Are you looking for hosts' opinions too? lol
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
oops..I made a mistake. I have both pages bookmarked and clicked on the wrong one.
but we all know that hostesses are on the viewer forum, too, so it doesn't really make a huge difference, does it?
but we all know that hostesses are on the viewer forum, too, so it doesn't really make a huge difference, does it?
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
I have seen those tits are they were huge...and juicy... I think s has lost a little weight around them now and not as big...
russian man on this site.... dont understand why you arent out shagging them for real...you lucky man,
russian man on this site.... dont understand why you arent out shagging them for real...you lucky man,
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
how long did it take you to get her to take it off?
was she horny?
was she horny?
never seen so few hosts on?
is there a contest soon or is the internets just broken? i notice that usually the week before a contest there are a lot less hosts on.
RE: never seen so few hosts on?
there is no contest coming, however many studios in romania are under police eye right now:((((
post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
viewer forum about faking... would be nice to have had some of you reply to jerksauce's post on this, rather than just having those saying they don't care if hosts fake....
would be nice to hear responses to that post too from those who don't like it....loool
would be nice to hear responses to that post too from those who don't like it....loool
RE: post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
The question was asked fairly of viewers who are the customers here. Sorry you're mad no one cares.
RE: post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
ohhh i nooo i just wondering why those that dont like fakes didnt respond to the question in viewer forum.
Maybe I would not have had to waste my money on what is usually a good host as now I caught her faking, when I asked her why she not just say she not in the mood like she has said before, which is fine, her response was she saw the post in viewer forum where most members answered the question saying they don't care if hosts fake......that is only reason I asked this question.....might have kept a host that normally does not fake from starting to fake .....Now I have to try find another, which is a shame because usually she says that she is not wanting to go that far.
Maybe I would not have had to waste my money on what is usually a good host as now I caught her faking, when I asked her why she not just say she not in the mood like she has said before, which is fine, her response was she saw the post in viewer forum where most members answered the question saying they don't care if hosts fake......that is only reason I asked this question.....might have kept a host that normally does not fake from starting to fake .....Now I have to try find another, which is a shame because usually she says that she is not wanting to go that far.
RE: post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
"ohhh i nooo i just wondering why those that dont like fakes didnt respond to the question in viewer forum."
Maybe its because no one cares if they fake. Why didn't you ask this in the thread in the Viewer Forum?
Maybe its because no one cares if they fake. Why didn't you ask this in the thread in the Viewer Forum?
RE: post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
It would be foolish to assume that any hosts are not faking it. To orgasm in multiple videos day after day is unlikely. The bottom line is if the host is a convincing actress then...who cares. It is a fantasy. I did have a host from Brazil who was a friend. A few times a week before I went to work we would go online and do it together...I am pretty sure that was the real deal...I miss Cinderellla.
RE: hey:d
if/when u come to holland u need to register at the local city hall...u MUST have a place to live...they will give u a "sofi" number and u can then legally start working by urself...they have no problems providing u have a valid home address....good luck
RE: hey:d
yeah u do...they need to know ur whereabouts...here is a quote for the requirements
"To register with the municipality, the following conditions need to be met:
EU citizens need to present a valid passport or identity card. Non-EU citizens must have a valid residence permit (verblijfsvergunning) or be in the process of applying for one;
Applicants must reside in the municipality in which they registered for at least four continuous months of the six-month period following registration."
"To register with the municipality, the following conditions need to be met:
EU citizens need to present a valid passport or identity card. Non-EU citizens must have a valid residence permit (verblijfsvergunning) or be in the process of applying for one;
Applicants must reside in the municipality in which they registered for at least four continuous months of the six-month period following registration."
RE: hey:d
just fyi i already know that....read THIS part
"Applicants must reside in the municipality in which they registered for at least four continuous months of the six-month period following registration."
and dont say "that's only for non eu citizens" i'm from england...i moved to holland last year..i know how it works
"Applicants must reside in the municipality in which they registered for at least four continuous months of the six-month period following registration."
and dont say "that's only for non eu citizens" i'm from england...i moved to holland last year..i know how it works
RE: hey:d
yeah, but i bet that had more to do with the fact that you're a beautiful young woman:)
RE: hey:d
u got it in 5 mins? thats bullshit...it takes at least 7 working days for them to recieve it back at the city hall where u then need to go back to collect it
RE: hey:d
so why r u commenting saying i was wrong if YOU got urs THREE years ago when I clearly stated i moved here LAST YEAR? think about it